Torn between Tanaka 32 or R/S 35 GEBE kit. Decided!!

Discussion in 'Rack Mounted Engines' started by OldPete, May 29, 2007.

  1. OldPete

    OldPete Guest

    I will phone my order in Wendsday or the day after and need some input...please.

    I need clean n' quiet because several questionable bike paths will be used during the off hours. Like at dusk or before sunrise.
    Plus on the road down here I will be mixing with the lycra set everytime I'm on PCH or even near it.

    The new Tanaka 32 is lighter and can pull a 14 tooth drive wheel vs the R/S 35 pulling the 13. GEBE said it is 2dBA quieter than the R/S 35 when both are at 27~28mph. The only disadvantage of the stroker would be the cost of good oil @ about $1.00 per gallon and the pain of mixing.

    I did find this and will use it on either engine. The Tanaka should go 90 miles before refill, plus mixing would be easyer and the R/S 35 about 100. It can be fitted tight to a power unit if no Expansion chamber is used.
    It holds 1.5L and the engine feeds off of it before feeding from the stock tank.

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    In the future I may pull one of these for touring/shopping use, so torque will be needed.

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    Some may say get the 40cc stroker but I really don't need over 34mph and I want to get close to 200mpg.

    So..There you have it. 2 stroke vs 4 stroke within this context.
     

  2. jerryt

    jerryt Guest

    I don't believe there's enough difference to worry about total bike weight or quality of engine. However, I lean to the 4 stroke side.

    Although the decibles's may be similar, the 2 strokes can be quite annoying after awhile (not to me cause I likw that sound).

    And sadly, at my advanced years and barely this side of non compos mentis, I prefer the convenience of fuel straight outta the pump.

    Regards,
    Jerry
     
  3. OldPete

    OldPete Guest

    jerryt,
    I talked to Julia today and set my alarm for 5:30am PST because she is going to have Dennis call early. They are the husband and wife owners of GEBE @ bikeengines.com. They had never seen that aux fuel tank, it was nice to give them a heads up.
    She likes the strokers but the 4 stroke will pull a trailer much better according to her, particularly from low road speeds. I'll post what Dennis has to say in my am.

    I know a thing or two about strokers, I raced Mercury powered outboard boats in the late '50~early '60s, road dirt bikes for years, had a Suzuki X-6 Scramble and pitted for a 250cc Yamaha road race bike team.

    I like the worksman frame and springer forks. The rear sheave from this kit I'm getting might work on your 11 gauge spokes but it would take a trick and a readjustment of some spokes. I'll be able to tell once I have the beast in hand.. :smile:

    I hope your bike has the front brake hub because a coaster brake would be scary.
     
  4. OldPete

    OldPete Guest

    In my mind, the only real advantage of the stroker is a little top speed in quiet/stock trim, a little lighter in weight and sets lower to the wheel. If I were willing to ride loud, fast 'n thirsty, the stroker would win hands down in a modified state.
    The early strong clutch engagement of the R/S 35 according to GEBE won the day for me. I did talk to Dennis this am and he is having great fun with his business with very little warranty work of any kind. Nice guy. :smile:
    I will be buying the Volocity rear wheel from him with this order. It is laced 4 cross with 105 gauge spokes(12 gauge jerryt) and he stated that an easy drill mod will permit the sheave to fit these fat spokes. The wheel is $90 + shipping but comes with the sheave pre-installed when bought with the kit as well as the requiored $12 solid long axel.
    jerryt, since you're in LB I will assist you in the sheave installation if you chose to go the GEBE route on your Worksman. I do have several of the tools needed for working on bikes. No coaster brake stuff but most of the other gear. I know a good place for relining small brake shoes too. :smile:
     
  5. Torques

    Torques Guest

  6. gone_fishin

    gone_fishin Guest

    i wanna joke about your avatar, but i'm afraid it might really be you. it looks like
    a post-office most-wanted poster...is that your best smile? :lol:

    glad you got things sorted, Ol' Pete, we eagerly await your first gallery 8)
     
  7. Torques

    Torques Guest

    I'm sure it's him, he wouldn't make fun of another human being's misfortunes.
     
  8. azbill

    azbill Active Member

    all I could picture was those ears and 88mph
    fly into the future !!!
    :lol: :lol: :lol:
     
  9. OldPete

    OldPete Guest

    Joke all you want, that's Wally and when he gets used as an Avatar, well, that's when I get serious. Wally is from centeral Russia and has had a tough life. He was found at http://hddguru.com/ i stole him.

    Gallery for sure. I have a cheap Canon and have never loaded pictars to the comp. I think the comp has a fan that needs lube because I had to reboot to get the squall to go away. So yeah, there will be pics to prove I'm not lieing. :grin: Like we need to play 'lets pretend'. :razz:
     
  10. bamabikeguy

    bamabikeguy Active Member

    *bump* up, request for closer pix of the junction/main fuel feed line.
     
  11. Hive

    Hive Guest

    Yes, me too...

    Would like source for fuel cell and hook-up pics, if possible. I think I might hang it on the side-rack I installed on the bent for bags.

    That trailer is awesome piece of work. Puts Burley to shame.
     
  12. R/S 35 vs Tanaka 32

    The 4 stroke engine, R/S 35, is definitely the right choice for your particular application. I would also wager that long after the 2 stroker is on its butt, that little 4 stroker will still be running good. If it's low end torque, quietness, and durability you're after, then the R/S is the obvious answer. If it's speed, and less low end torque, (common characteristics of a 2 stroker), then I'd say get the Tanaka. I definitely love my R/S 35 after 600 miles, she's loosening up a little, and really purring. No busted spokes either, after the 10 guage spokes...so far... ;)
     
  13. OldPete

    OldPete Guest

    Loose 150# of your stated 350# Roy Carpenter and you would not need 10g spokes. You make a point of omitting that fact in most all of your wheel posts.
     
  14. Jim H

    Jim H Guest

    Roy was very up front w/ all that initially Pete. Why belabor the obvious?
     
  15. OldPete

    OldPete Guest

    I am not belaboring anything. It was not I that bumped this 5 month old thread of mine. :D
     
  16. Lol...Well, Ol' Pete! I really wasn't trying to "make a point" of omitting my weight...it may seem that way to you, but not so. If I didn't mention my weight in every single post, I appologize for that, (although most folks don't..lol). Just remember that the spoke breaking issue with the GEBE drive ring isn't mine alone. I'm working on loosing the weight...but you aren't even slightly aware of my health condition, and should be a little more respectful toward fellow forum members, regardless of your personal opinions. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't this string about R/S, and Tanaka? I was just trying to give you a little friendly feedback, and got dissed! Still, I thank you for your advice! :) PS: Besides that, I think you are just envious of my new back wheel!!! lmao J/K
     
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  17. 5-7HEAVEN

    5-7HEAVEN Guest

    :cool:Roy, it is obvious that you are a BIG man.

    It is also obvious that you are a GREAT man to know.

    Myron
     
  18. OldPete

    OldPete Guest

    Awwwww, group hug. Bwahahaha!
     
  19. Well 5-7...I try to be as much help as I can out here. Without you guys, I would have been totally lost. The forum gave me options, and enough information to get my bike squarred away. You, and the others have been nothing but helpful, and encouraging to me. I have criticized the GEBE system problems I've been having with mine. None of it was "made up". Heck, two thirds of this country is overweitht, (USA), and I thought I owed it to them to let them know what they are getting into, should they decide to build a kit. I guess I've mentioned the "broken spoke blues" enough though...startin' to get on some of the member's nerves...My appologies there folks. ;)
     
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