transmission using the gears on the bike?

Discussion in 'Spare Parts, Tools & Product Developement' started by grantr, Nov 28, 2007.

  1. grantr

    grantr Guest

    I saw this on youtube and I though this was too cool with the tranny.

    How is this bike setup? I want something with gears like this.

    I bought the the santana engine from and put it on a walmart $50 mountian Bike about 2.5 years ago. I like it but it only runs 26mph wide open and uses the friction roller on the tire.


  2. gone_fishin

    gone_fishin Guest

  3. Neat set up....I'd like to see a good pic of how it all goes together....I paused it but was still hard to see.....engine hanging so far off center may feel weird tho. Good post.
  4. Bean Oil

    Bean Oil Guest

    I also paused the vid... the motor appears to intercept the cranks; in other words, the rider can probably no longer pedal with that setup.

    I think he's shifting with the rear derailleur; if he is and cannot pedal, then it's no longer a motorized bicycle; it's now a motor-driven cycle and would perhaps require some sort of motorcycle endorsement on one's driver license, insurance coverage and annual registration to be entirely legal in most states.

    It's an 'outlaw' bike. LOL.
  5. 5-7HEAVEN

    5-7HEAVEN Guest

    :cool:There's a 9-minute video where Steve rides his bike, and explains in detail the trappings of his bicycle. His X50 HONDA engine is mounted completely starboard of his bicycle. He mentioned that it is adapted to a moped transmission, via STATON adaptor.

    Listening carefully, the bike owner MIGHT be Canadian.:shock:

    In his lengthy video, Steve claims that this bicycle can do 65mph, although in his review he says it does 60kph.

    Listening to the engine and watching his video, Steve's bike does not seem to have the brutal acceleration of a properly-geared machine. This is especially true if his top speed is as high as 65mph at maybe 7000rpm.

    I'm not downplaying Steve's motored bicycle. I think he has done a good job of mating a moped trans with bicycle gears.

  6. Haggard

    Haggard Guest

    Whats canadian have to do with anything ?
    did i miss something?
    please explain .\

    I'll ask again , just what does that statement imply.
    Also who are talking too?
    this is a fresh thread that doesn't have anything to do with you or steve unless you have something constructive to add.
    yet you take it upon yourself to just drop in and insult and belittle a fella whos not even here??

    \ Let me ask you a third time
    QUOTE:Listening carefully, the bike owner MIGHT be Canadian.:shock:

    What is you point ? What are you insuating, suggesting, or stating with that comment?
    Because I live above the 40th parellel , what??
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  7. Bean Oil

    Bean Oil Guest

    Moddy edit: No IMG tags

    Gotcha; though I hosted that image of the "chill pill". Since it wasn't really bike-related data, I figured The Board wouldn't mind.

    Pardon me.

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  8. 5-7HEAVEN

    5-7HEAVEN Guest

    :cool:Jesus, man, chill.

    What I meant was that maybe Canadians don't have stringent moped bicycle laws as we have in the United States.

    Unless I got the name wrong in the video, Steve is the gentleman with the bike, moped trans and HONDA engine. It is totally pertinent what I brought to this thread.

    What many people might now know is that the Canadian Embassy smuglgled many Americans safely out of the country in Iran, when the Ayatollah Khomeini was after their blood in November 1979-1981.

    Hats off to Canucks!

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  9. azbill

    azbill Active Member

    canadian motoredbike laws are actually much more stringent tham US laws
    if it has an engine, it's a moped...that's pretty much all there is to their laws
    (I am from ontario, originally)
  10. alesterfeind

    alesterfeind Guest

    I like this. He is only using the rear derailer, and the chain goes over the engine sprocket. This might be fairly simple. With the bike started in low gear, no pedaling would really be needed, just a little bit of push off with your feet. This looks pretty cool. You would have 8-9 gears to go through depending on the cassette. I wonder what kind of top speed you could get?
  11. Bean Oil

    Bean Oil Guest

    ^ But if he is using the rear cassette, won't it freewheel making a push-start impossible?

    *scratches head*
  12. 5-7HEAVEN

    5-7HEAVEN Guest

    :cool:Steve's engine is pull start.

    He pushes off from a standing start, which is exactly what I do with my rack-mounted engine.

  13. ocscully

    ocscully Member


    I watched 3 of the videos by this guy and I only understood him to be claiming speeds in KPH not MPH, also in the longer video where he is detailing the build he talks of a "Scooter Transmission" not Moped? In the longer video it is much easier to see the parts he is talking about and what he is calling a scooter transmission appears to me to be just a primary reduction gear box similar to what is used by Viza Motors on their scooters/gopeds.
  14. sklein25

    sklein25 Guest

    Yes, this guy Steve is Canadian and he is from Woodbridge (part of Toronto) and our laws are pretty tight up here concerning motorized vehicles. It's true, if it has an engine. Then it must be licensed and insured to be able to use on the street. He's taking a chance by riding it around his neighbourhood, cuz if he gets pulled over by a cop. Even if he's wearing a helmet and has a horn/ bell and lights on it. He will still be fined for riding on public streets much like any pocket bike rider would be. We've got a great Pilot program in effect that lets us ride electric power-assisted bikes anywhere (including on the street) here in Ontario. But it does not apply to motorized bikes with engines, only electric bikes.
    Anyways, I'm pretty impressed with his ride and his explanation of how everything went together and why. But I feel that once you remove the pedals and the rest of the drive train from your bicycle to install an engine of some sort, then you are no longer riding a bicycle of any kind. You are riding some sort of engined machine like a motorcycle. After all, just because you salvaged a frame and wheels (a roller) from a bicycle, doesn't mean it's still a bicycle (especially if it does not have a human powered drive train).
    I think the biggest challenge to motorize a bicycle (whether gas engine, or electric motor) is to find a way to do it so that you can still pedal it like any ordinary bicycle. That means having to leave the original human powered drive train alone and working around that.
    But all in all, it's a great job!!!!!
    I thought some of those streets looked familiar!!!!!!LOL

  15. mickey

    mickey Guest

    I agree. If I wanted another motorcycle, I'd just buy one.
  16. dave1490

    dave1490 Guest

    i disagree i live in downtown toronto and i know that long as it,s pedal asist it,s ok for i believe 3 years {if you use the bike lanes ebikes included}untill the law makers have statisic,s and do what THEY think is right.and the laws up here are more stringent then the us {no nos at all alowed}.you know we are all enviromental freak,s.
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  17. 5-7HEAVEN

    5-7HEAVEN Guest

    :cool:ocscully, you're right. I listened to his video and read his comments again. He said 60-65kph, which converts to about 40mph.

  18. 5-7HEAVEN

    5-7HEAVEN Guest

    To all forum members,

    I sincerely apologize if what I posted about Steve being Canadian offended anyone here. It was never meant to denigrate Canadians or any other nationality. I am not familiar with Canadian laws pertaining to moped or bicycles, and simply wondered if their laws were much different north of the border.

    Maybe it wouldn't have perceived as been so offensive, if I had not used the :shock: face. It was not my intent to offend anyone.

    Again, I offer my apologies. I'm sorry.

  19. azbill

    azbill Active Member

    I, as a Canadian living in the states, accept your apology :D
  20. Haggard

    Haggard Guest

    Apology excepted.
    And I'd like to apologise also if I missinterpeted your dorogatory remark. sorry