Tuned Pipe Review - fd94x from Davesmotors

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I just finished my initial test using a tuned pipe from Davesmotors that was designed for a 47cc Pocketbike. Here are the details.

Set up:
26" Mt. Tek Boulder Mountain bike, 17" seat tube
70cc "Happy Time" motor
44t sprocket
Engine is stock except for matching the intake and exhaust manifolds to match the head.

The Pipe:
fd94x Chrome Exhaust Pipe w/Silencer for 47cc Pocketbike.

Installation:
Not being a welder I tried to keep it simple and do things that others could do. My initial plan was to cut the stock "Happy Time" pipe. Turn it over, pointing up, and attach the new pipe with silicone tubing and hose clamps until I got it tuned, eventually welding it. The frame I am using is so small, that was not an option but may be for other frames. My solution was to use 1" copper fittings and pipe.

I purchased a 1" female to female 45 degree elbow and a 1" male to female 45 degree elbow. I also purchased 1 ft of 1" tubing. Using the exhaust manifold supplied with the pipe, I had to grind it a little to match the exhaust port on the engine, I stuck the 2 45 degree fittings together and on to the exhaust manifold, see Manifold pic. It is amazing the amount of angles that can be achieved by twisting these three pieces. You should be able to align things up the way you want.

I then cut three different lengths of pipe to be able to adjust the overall length of the expansion chamber to get the desired results. See adjustment tubes pic. Also view the Short Pipe and Longer Pipe pics to get the idea.

I used an old trick I learned from Karting on how to keep the pipe from falling apart without welding. I used a retaining spring, see Spring Mount pic.

Finished Assembly:
It all went together fairly easily and looks pretty cool on the bike, see Finished Bike pic. Now after looking at that pic I am sure you are wondering how badly my leg is burned. Well actually not at all. The pipe tucks nicely to the frame, see Bike Profile pic. If you had a larger frame, and I am sure all of you do, there would be more mounting options and you would probably gain even more room around your leg area. As it is, I may fab a heat shield using some ducting tin, sheet metal screwed into the pipe with some washers to space it away from the pipe.

Results:
I started my test with the middle sized tube giving me the option of going shorter or longer. When it first fired up I noticed a much different exhaust note, much more of a pop-pop-pop than the sputtering sound of the stock pipe. I thought wow if it is this loud at idle I may have a problem with the neighbors. After letting the bike warm up, I opened her up. Wow what a difference. The popping sound went away and it accelerated hard and overall not much louder than the stock pipe.

The acceleration was much improved but it still wanted to fall on it's face at top end. In that case shorten the pipe. The theory is that the shorter the length of the expansion chamber the faster the pulses move between the engine and pipe which is better suited for higher RPM. The longer the pipe, the better suited it will be for low RPM. So I went to the shortest tube I had. The results were not as expected. Not only did it lose some acceleration but made no improvement in top end. My theory on this is that these "Happy Time" engines, as I have read and now concur with other members, are ported, carbureted and ignition timed to max out at a certain RPM. So unless you are going to change those things I suggest trying to maximize the engines inherent powerband.

Using the 44t sprocket I will suggest an increase of about 4 to 5 inches longer than the pipe comes. This equates to the two 45 degree elbows and a 2 1/2 inch piece of straight pipe. I would use about the same for down to maybe a 38t sprocket.

Overall I think it was well worth the $35 for the pipe and $10 in goodies from the hardware store. A couple of tips and notes. To minimize exhaust leaks when using the spring retention method, I used a tapered end socket to put a slight flange on the male ends of the fittings. The copper fittings have a little play in them to allow for solder flow. This will just tighten them up. As far as how long the copper will last. Only time will tell but it is looking good so far.
 

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The muffler only makes it quieter, but the tuned pipe provides the largest performance gain for the least amount of money.
 
thats what I mean the tuned pipe part...
Since it is for a 49cc engine and your on a 70cc isnt it not tuned correctly?
 
Not tuned perfectly out of the box but for the price it is way better than the stock pipe. You can adjust the pipe to tune it better for the bigger motor by changing the length of the pipe. The longer the distance between the exhaust port and the pipe the more torque you will have. The shorter the distance the higher rpm you will be able to achieve. The trick is to be able to adjust it to your engine, with your gears and your riding style.
 
Update

I just altered the mounting technique for my pipe. I think you all will like it better and no I didn't change it because I burnt my leg. It just seemed to be everyones biggest concern. It did require me to cut one of the bends out of the pipe and use a silicone coupler. I also slightly changed the header configuration. I was using two 45 degree copper pieces now I am using a straight coupler and one 45 degree elbow. The net result is now the total length of the pipe is shorter than before by about 2 inches making it only about 1/2 longer than the pipe is stock which is about what I figured would be right using the 49cc pipe on a 70cc engine. It now pulls a significantly higher rpm than before. I lost a little torque but the top end is awesome. Since I have gears I don't have to worry about the torque as much.
 

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Copper fittings

Hey G I tried to braze some of those C fittings together. Looked OK but makes them very soft. I ended up going with steel electrical conduit & abandoning the X-Can. You can buy steel connectors and elbows, but they are a little different diameter than copper fittings. Your spring idea would hold them nicely. This was easy to just weld.

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arc welders

You can buy one for $99.95 at Harbor Freight. Fine China quality too... Or even get a mig for less than $300.00 with gas protected shield. Any remotely serious garage hack can do this. EVEN >> ZOMBY << learned this without any training.........
 
OOps

My welded pipe broke. Motors move while frames do not! I always judge the fun factor of any toy as to how long it takes to tear it up while having extreme fun with it... This one rated pretty good. I had a blast for about 30 minutes. Your springs let the pipe flex a bit. That is a good thing. I'm going to steal your concept and use it on the opposite end of the connect. Thanks G. Got weld yet??
 
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