turn lights will this work

Discussion in 'Electrical' started by oldpot, Jul 14, 2013.

  1. oldpot

    oldpot Member

    will this work for turn lights , sorry this is only way i know how to read electrics that's easy,i got those cheap chinsea 3-1 lights but they always don't work after a while due to vibration on the bike so need a better solution there brake lights work ok so does the tial light just turn signals that's wonky , hope to get better brake and tail light later on but want turn signals first .


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    will these parts work for it

    lights
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/2X-6LED-Mini-Motorcycle-Amber-Turn-Signal-Lights-Blinker-Indicator-Chrome-12V-/290902186069?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item43bb1f1855&vxp=mtr

    flasher
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Turn-Signal-Flasher-Blinker-Relay-12V-2-Pin-Motorcycle-LED-Indicator-Light-/390618009305?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5af2a5ced9&vxp=mtr

    toggle
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/120917206386?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649



    i would like something like this but i no idea to wire that up :(

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Motorcycle-Motorbike-16-LED-Rear-Tail-Turn-Signal-Brake-Driving-Light-Lamp-/390618159334?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5af2a818e6&vxp=mtr
     

  2. oldpot

    oldpot Member

    This is what i did below but having trouble with it
    the flashers came and i tried the set up lights normal lights not led ones was from auto zone and the flasher here

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/121142578672?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

    heres the set up


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    now when i run the set up without the flasher connected it works fine , as soon as i connect the flasher (tries both pins visa versa)and does not light up or flash ,i even tried a 9v battery and again with the flasher removed the lights , light up buty when i put the flasher back it done work ,

    now is it the 8 battery's i checked i was running 10.8 volts and not the fully 12 volts (and does it need a constant 12volts or is the flasher the wrong one , or i got one that don't work or am i doing something wrong .

    can someone help me ty.
     
  3. tom-fishing

    tom-fishing Member

    Those type of lights don't draw enough amps to enable the flasher unit to operate.
     
  4. oldpot

    oldpot Member

  5. tom-fishing

    tom-fishing Member

    Those flasher units are rated for how much amp draw it needs to work, and those lights only draw about .5 of a amp. That is not enough. I think if you look at the flasher it will tell you the draw needed to make it work.
     
  6. Big Red

    Big Red Active Member

    Yer both right. Tom say's ya need more draw, he's right. You say ya need the full 12v, and yer right.
    I took an old style mechanical type flasher and took off the cap then pushed the terminals closer to make it "GO OFF" sooner. It might have been an accident or just plain luck, but it worked. It takes less draw to set it off. The contacts touch, heats up, then like a kids clicker toy, clicks off the contact. when it cools it goes back to touching, heats up, ect.
    The new style flasher is all electronics and circut boards and ya can't do anything to reset them. I burned out a couple trying. Get the old mechanical style and play with it. You might even be able to get it to work with the lower amps you're using. They are only a couple bucks apeice online so it's cheap enough to experiment with.
    Big Red.
    P.S. And you can try adding more lights to draw more amps. If one light quits working on one side then both front and rear on that side quit working on my bike. Only one bulb does not draw enough to make the flasher work. And also try using two 1156 auto bulbs. (one front, one back.) thats about the most draw yer gonna get. It works the same way on yer car. If a bulb goes out yer signal quits working on that side to let you know somethings wrong. So just add another bulb and see what happens.
    I used something like these and wired them to take a small auto bulb.
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Univers...es&hash=item53f47b818f&vxp=mtr#ht_6614wt_1168
     
    Last edited: Jul 19, 2013
  7. oldpot

    oldpot Member

    Ty tom and big red,
    the unit says
    flasher
    15wx2=-1.5w
    12v
    so does that mean i need lights that will run at 1.5 w ,both was about $6 (lights and flasher )so i need to find out what to get rid of i can take the lights back but done know which ones to get.

    would these work ???
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Universal-2-x-Motorcycle-Plastic-Turn-Signals-Indicators-Turning-Lights-BE0D-/400337597975?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5d35faf617&vxp=mtr

    about the battery i got 2 14500 batterys if i got another 2 could i use a 4x black case like the one used for the 8aa (to make 12v)would that work that would be more then 12v .
     
    Last edited: Jul 19, 2013
  8. Big Red

    Big Red Active Member

    I'm just using a cheapo battery like this one.
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Max-Life-Ba..._Batteries&hash=item3a8260475c#ht_1596wt_1168
    Big Red.
     
  9. Big Red

    Big Red Active Member

    Those lights MIGHT work. Like I said,I had to re-wire mine to take a regular auto bulb to draw more amps.
    Big Red.
     
  10. oldpot

    oldpot Member

    nice battery big red ,i save the link for it i need one , well i tried the lights on the car battery and did not flash but lit up but not bright so its must be the lights ??? i will take the lights back i checked a few lights online but they done show the draw amp on them so i dont know what to buy anyone know that cheapest lights i can use??
     
  11. Big Red

    Big Red Active Member

    Lights

    First, Did you try two bulbs on the same line to draw more amps?
    And if you're using a lower amp battery to power 12V lights and flasher unit it probably wont work either.
    Try using TWO, IN LINE, 12V auto bulbs with a fully charged 12V battery and 12V flasher. My bike has front and back signals plus tail and brake light. I'll try to look at it today to see if how I have it wired EXACTLY. It's been a while.
    Big Red.
    And when ya finally figure it out, Try a switch like this. Saves room on the bars and everything is at your fingertips.
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Light-Turn-...ies&hash=item35c794bccb&vxp=mtr#ht_2049wt_930
     

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    Last edited: Jul 21, 2013
  12. Sgt. Howard

    Sgt. Howard Member

    If you purchase yellow LEDs thru electronic Goldmine, load each three LED cluster on a 200 ohm resistor and feed the hot wire to the switch with a green flashing LED, you will have what you want. The 200 ohm ballast on each cluster (I use three per light, twelve total) will additionally ballast the green flasher at twelve volts, and the green flasher will flash the two lights, right or left, by it's actions. You will need a suppressive sparkplug, or the flasher won't work.
     
  13. Sgt. Howard

    Sgt. Howard Member

    Red, that's one cool setup you got there on the Cranbrick- .308 ammo cans make awesome saddlepacks, plus the turn lights onboard...
     
  14. oldpot

    oldpot Member

    ok ty all i did get them working i got another flash unit and led lights and now working a treat , now how to figure out how to wire this tail/brake light out i got , might need help of this one .
     
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