UltraCapacitors / SuperCapacitors - Something to Track

Discussion in 'Electric Bicycles' started by Email, Sep 20, 2008.

  1. Email

    Email Member

    Lithium is expensive due to it being a "LIMITED" resource. One development being worked on that we all need to be aware of is UltraCapacitors. I just bumped into it today because I was thinking about using a full bridge and capacitor setup for my lights (avoiding batteries). It seems that this technology is the next efficient cheap thing we are waiting on. Even though it does not have the energy capacity of lithium, it does hold some promise for fast efficient charge cycles (like stopping at a gas station to refill a gasoline car). The other advantage that I am sure many of you will appreciate is that it would have over 500k charge cycles. Currently they're not cheap by any stretch of the imagination.

    One thing from a post on e-bay. "The 16.2V is intended for 12V applicationa, as a 12V system usually 14V or more when charging. You wouldn't likely use it as a direct replacement for a deep cycle battery as the capacity is much less and the price is more. Farads are amp seconds per volt, so if you discharge a 1F cap 1 volt, you get 1 amp second, or 1/3600 amp hours." $430 for the 16.2V 500F (0.1388A equivalent if the guys post is correct). Who knows what future advances will happen though?

  2. abudabit

    abudabit New Member

    Ultracapacitors are a LOOONG way off from being the best choice.

    And Lithium is the 33rd most abundant element on earth.

    Also we will probably develop new battery technology before ultra capacitors become viable.

    $400 for 2WH right now.
  3. HoughMade

    HoughMade Guest

    ...but will they keep the headlights in my car from dimming when the bass hits hard?
  4. ZMX

    ZMX New Member

    Capacitors can charge or discharge, for all intents and purposes, instantly, but a battery can't. Capacitors are used in conjunction with the alternator and battery on a car.
  5. HoughMade

    HoughMade Guest

    I suppose I should have added "ha, ha" to my previous post.
  6. timmyP

    timmyP Member

    There is a company in the Houston, TX area that has been developing a ultracapacitor system that is reportedly nearing readiness for production based on barium. several large corp's seem to be convinced it will be successful. it is called EEStor and are suppose to be available first part of next year for high volume commercial users like electric cars