ban all vendors

[beach cruzin]

If this place is going to live u all should ban those chinese smugling buy my
80cc kit venders,Let them pimp themselfs somewere or else it will ruin the movemnt..they are a bunch of crooks and i don't want them in my back yard.

could'nt there be a donataion box or somthing to help pay for web fees and such? I'm sure there are lot of peps here that would rather see that than a vendor ***** fest

 

[fetor56]

I don't have a problem with vendors advertising & selling their wares PROVIDED it's not thrown in my face all the time.I do have a problem with vendors giving false or misleading information as to fuel economy/engine capacity/build times/etc etc.
Reputable vendors i look foreward to seeing their posts and displaying their wares and on many occasions actively seek them out.........free enterprise,it works.

 

[KilroyCD]

I strongly disagree...

If this place is going to live u all should ban those chinese smugling buy my
80cc kit venders,Let them pimp themselfs somewere or else it will ruin the movemnt..they are a bunch of crooks and i don't want them in my back yard.

could'nt there be a donataion box or somthing to help pay for web fees and such? I'm sure there are lot of peps here that would rather see that than a vendor ***** fest

First, I would refrain from calling the vendors "smugglers". There are many honest businessmen amongst the vendors out there, and to paint them all with such a wide brush is quite unfair. Those who may be smuggling banned engines into the US are likely to not get away with it for very long anyway. But before one makes accusations, one must make sure they have proof. Remember that in this country, one is presumed innocent until proven guilty. Secondly, this forum is hardly overrun with vendors hawking their products. Granted, we have the left hand column of sponsors, but this is hardly intrusive. They aren't chiming in on every thread saying that they have such and such that will be just the right thing for you. The controls in place in this forum are to prevent that, and these controls keep commercialism to a minimum. If it's the Chinese engines you're beefing about that are ruining the movement, I then ask what you think made this movement what it is in the first place? Both of my 48cc engines are Chinese-made, as is my Whizzer. It's the combination of availability and reasonable pricing that helped make this movement what it is today.

 

[Large Filipino]

I say that most buyers of the Happy Time engine KNEW about the illegality of it all.
It's the PRICE that's keeping them coming.
I agree that this does not help the movement. If were gonna be honest with the law we shouldn't tweak it at all.
But here it is. The Happy Time is the most common engine used in this entire forum. Why? Because we are generally POOR!
If were gonna do away with Chineese importing we need to get American made products to go down. WE need to worry about quantity of sales even if it means loss of quality just so we can compete with China.
But for now,people will continue to buy the Happy Time just like people will continue to go to Wal Mart.
It's a hard fact of life.

 

[beach cruzin]

We all know by now how these chinese get here if there is a more politically corect way to say it i'm soory.I also am runing chinese 70 (68.7cc) its at 1000mi and ready to give up thats how thier built cheap enough so we don't care and just buy anther one well yes i do care and most of the honest businessmen amongst the vendors out there know this cuz thats how they make there money which is the bottem line. I am american and belive in amercain made.Yes the chinese engine help start the movent and WILL destroy it IMHO.

not trying to make a rant here just a suggestion

 

[beach cruzin]

Large you are right unforuntly if the country wasnt such a woosie and everybody in it stod up and said i'm not buying this carp anymore things might cange but it wont as a whole we are just sheep

 

[beach cruzin]

I don't have a problem with vendors advertising & selling their wares PROVIDED it's not thrown in my face all the time.I do have a problem with vendors giving false or misleading information as to fuel economy/engine capacity/build times/etc etc.
Reputable vendors i look foreward to seeing their posts and displaying their wares and on many occasions actively seek them out.........free enterprise,it works.

YES BUT

MotoredBikes.com was created with the vision of creating a community of motorized bicycle enthusiasts, and providing a means to communicate and convey ideas, thoughts and opinions to one another to help spread the word on this alternative mode of transportation.

 

[fetor56]

YES BUT

MotoredBikes.com was created with the vision of creating a community of motorized bicycle enthusiasts, and providing a means to communicate and convey ideas, thoughts and opinions to one another to help spread the word on this alternative mode of transportation.

Absolutely that was & still is MBc's vision for creation.....what i'm saying is this place can't support itself by itself...it needs revenue.
Most members arn't prepared to pay so that only leaves sponsorship,so if your picking your own sponsors then aleast u remain in control.
I would be happy to contribute a yearly fee to keep this place running but i seriously doubt most other ppl would because of the sheer nature of it's itinerant population.That's NOT a slander on temp members who simply "breeze in & breeze out"....that's just how it is.
So there ya go,u have 1 member whose prepared to pay.....let's see how many more u can get.

 

[Demosthenese]

we CANT stick our heads in the sand. we CAN contain all the vendor stuff to one area.
we don't want them here, but we do need their stuff? c'mon, recognize that they are a part of this community, just like us, the consumers are. obviously i don't condone lies (80cc lol) but i firmly stand by the fact that the easier it is for people to impulse buy the ht engines, the faster the movement will grow. it may sound like a ruthless thing to say, but the faster people can imagine owning one, and the cheaper they are, the more people will buy em. If walmart stocked HT's, everyone in the continent would have one tommorow, even though they're cheap and made in china. Cheap and made in china is how the world works these days.
I totally agree it's wrong, and bad, and we should build em here and make em good.... but working within the system of capitalism, the best thing we could do would be to make the top half of every page on this site a huge button that takes you right to the cheapest HT kit around. Instant gratification and impulse buying probably accounts for half the first engine buys.

 

[beach cruzin]

I realize i'm beating a dead horse