Black-Hat Alert! Revolution Cycles

[gone_fishin]

Bryan Semones, you are permanently banned at MBc.

my next move, if pushed, will be to use my personal web-space to
publish your obscene & threatening e-mails to the MBc staff.

please note the red-highlighted area in my email to don grube...this is staying right here, buddy!! in fairness, i did publish his letter in entirety.

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From: "Augie D." <augidog@motoredbikes.com>
To: <dongrube@hotmail.com>
Subject: brian semones of arizona
Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 07:06:53 -0800


dear don,

my name is augidog & i administrate a forum for builders & riders of motor assisted bicycles. many of our 300 members are using your products and seem quite happy about it.

we are an open forum, in that all riders of all methods of mechanical assistance are welcome, as well as all suppliers of kits and accessories. because we want to attract all ages, we have a strict set of rules and content policies in place, as well as rules on vendor conduct
.
one fellow who has been harrasing our members and constantly trying to circumvent my security is brian semones of (revolution cycles llc) motorizedbicyles.net. his language and behaviors are unacceptable, he openly attacks our members and staff. instead of telling us how good the grubee products are, he prefers to tell us why other sellers and engines don't deserve our business. if his plan is to lose sales, he's doing a fine job of it.

and, he's been doing it in the grubee name.

let's be clear, we're consumers who want or need motoredbikes for a variety of reasons. we want affordable and reliable products, and we don't care who likes who inside the chinese engine industry.

so i wanted to ask you if brian's behavior is the "grubee way"...do you encourage or accept such tactics?

this message, along with your response, or lack of, will be published on my forum for our 300+ members and 400-600 visitors/day to read.

respectfully,
augidog
admin/moderator
www.motoredbikes.com

----- Original Message -----
From: Don Grube
To: augidog@motoredbikes.com
Cc: duronimo@gmail.com ; jsandlin@barsanco.com
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 9:06 AM
Subject: [SPAM] RE: brian semones of arizona


Dear Augie D;

Confirmed; We also have written to Mr. Semones dba:/ Revolution recently about his vocal and unprofessional written conduct in making actuations and slurs without fact.

Our belief is Honey attracts more flies than Vinegar! I trust you run your chat forum the same way?

Bryan seems to think he is our official spokesman which is not true. He is not one of our direct WD accounts but does buy from one as a dealer, Barsanco our WD in Detroit.

We have asked him to remove our grubee inc name and reference from his web site chat postings unless he is selling our products as a dealer via WD and has something good to say. Your e-mail was timely; Thank you. It is not our policy to belittle others or to offend. Unfortunately; we have little control over what a dealer may say.

The only folks in the business who we might offend are those whom we report to EPA as smuggling 2 cycle engines in from China as service replacement unassembled parts and then assemble into complete engine kits now selling on Ebay. This is against the EPA law as of Jan 1 2006 to sell an uncertified emmission engine obtained after the Jan 06 deadline. Our position in China as China GAS export allows to know quite readily who is doing it. China GAS stopped exporting 2 cycle engine kits in Nov. 2005 and abides by US`law. There is little control of those in Canada who ship to the US in small qtys.

FYI: I might add that Bryan has given us great assistance in analyzing some noise problems we had with an early shipment of 60 4 cycle engine kits for Honda GXH50 engines that went out in Oct. last year. We have addressed these problems and corrected the mistakes in present production which we are truly grateful for his assistance. In his own way he can be a nice fellow and very intellengent but does need some professional polish in my opinion. I guess no one is born perfect and can be conditioned by hardships.

Bryan's 4 cycle gear box complaints were found justified and we have agreed to replace all 60 gear boxes to those who bought them. The problem was caused by the factory's failure to machine on CNC equipment and hold tolerances. Replacements will be available at Barsanco in about 30 days. Barsanco wants them shipped in a consolidated container load which was held up by others and beyond our control or they would have been shipped sooner.

Best regards;

Don Grube pres. GruBee / China GAS www.chinabestexporter.com & www.grubeeinc.com

CC; Bryan Semones; Repeat: Please Please clean up your act. Others now report distress also.

 

[RevolutionCycles]

Ok if you read any of my posts try not to learn anything ...

 

[drimpact]

Brian(RevolutionCycles),

Please start a thread and introduce yourself to the group.

 

[misteright1_99]

Maybe he's using 2 or more ebay i.d.s but when I came across his products, he was using revolutioncycles-dot-us as his ebay name. See my other post about Semones. I had never seen these posts or knew his last name before I made my post yesterday. I had simply asked the guy some questions and got very rude answers. By the way, he shows his web address in all his ebay listings, which is a violation of ebay rules because it allows or invites buyers to purchase his items outside of ebay. He's not even supposed to have a username that reveals his website address but does. I guess he's one of the many flying under ebay's radar.



I have found that if ebaaaa is making enough money off you from listings they tend to close their eyes pretty tight...whether he is a decent vendor or not I don't know, but from what I have read here, I dont think so....

 

[RevolutionCycles]

I have spent hours on the phone with eBay asking questions like... "How can i use eBay to drive traffic to my web site" They thanked me for my candor and told me what i can and can't do. eBay started in the Bay area and i as an newschool/oldschool Height Street/Humboldt county kid i applaud eBay's revolving door policy. Mich like 850 Bryant's matrix system... At any rate i provide excellent customer service and my feedback reflects that. these bikes are better suited for hackers than whiners...
thanks
-=Bryan

 

[quay1962]

are you a vendor? vendor=vendor area

Hello since you are new, lol why not do things in the correct fashion and introduce yourself, i have only read the previous posts and have not had the pleasure of dealing with you...oh BTW have you noticed the vendor area? that's the only place you should start a thread if you are going to discuss sales at all... stop harassing the members... allot of people don't like you from what i have read ,however prove yourself to us and lets see what you are really about?we know what thatsdax and chrishill and the others are about...all i have heard is carp...so...the ball is in your court Tom still can ban you...
ya know!!!so be cool...fool

 

[RevolutionCycles]

sorry dude i dont have to prove myself to anyone... check out dictionary dot com and look up the word narcissist...

 

[BoltsMissing]

1:

Thank you all for your press. 7k a month in sales...100+ feedback points a month and climbing... !!! WOOT

The way I read it is, your sales ARE impressive for a bicycle business, small in global terms though, 7k a month is nothing unusual in these times.
You cannot show specificaly what percentage this is buisness from motoredbikes. You cut that part out as a loss, deliberately.

I bet then you have soo much spare cash to play with, alone, you need to kick the sand castles we succesfully make here like one of those bullys.
Fact is, there are no sand castles.
We Rock !

There is a a common factor here, that it's a Us v Them, "Them" being you and "you" feel threatened of the emerging, or re-emergance of pedals with motors in it's concept.
Yes, it's the poor man's way and I am not shy to say so.
Your up-market industry with 400% inflated retail mark-up is worrying you ?

So worried it seems that with your $play doh$, you sacrifice somewhat a motoredbike sale on your behalf, to deliberately discourage others from the concept by propagating "bad news", that we are mugs as a whole.
Your ONLY objective here is to have the last say, so your buisiness name keeps apearing on the thread. A bit like free advertising, some bait, a sale of motored bike, then the ****e, hoping it falls back on us and you walk away clean.
Ya see dude, even if I am wrong, I'm right, the eyes are now on you, just as you wished, a true narcist your are.

 

[RevolutionCycles]

Where do you get your info? 400% mark up?.... motorized bicycles are my only business..In some cases eBay and paypal make more on a sale than i do.... there are lots of misconceptions about this business and folks tend to get an egotistical chip on their shoulder. Sometimes pizza delivery guys should stay pizza delivery guys...
-=Bryan ex microsoft "v-2bsemo"...

 

[RevolutionCycles]

Ok im done ... i came here to help folks with their bikes and expand product knowledge. If you find you spend more time on this forum than on your bike you might go join a forum about power tripping forums... If it aint about the bikes keep it to your fragging self...

 

[BoltsMissing]

Done Deal