true EPA and fake EPA

[amtnick]

Arceguy. What is with you and "correcting" me? I threw no mud, so you are just plain wrong. So I must ask that you cease and desist.

I don't need your stinking advice and I certainly didn't ask YOU the question.

Of course I knew what he meant, and of course it's a translation problem. But my humor does not belittle the writer and it obviously went RIGHT over your head. CLUE: If you think we in the USA even "know" the incoming EPA, splash some cold water on your face!

No, cars record the actual manufacture date as do all other industries and should be expected on these engines. My manufacturers in China record the date manufactured.

I just begin to work in bicycle engine kits industry, and our EPA is 2009 edition. I doubt that the engines without factory name claim to be EPA cerified are true EPA.
I know Nantong Jiali has EPA certificate, but if all their engine kits sold to USA really reach EPA standard, that is a question.
som distributors dont want low cost engine kits without cat. converters, but they will use their supplier's EPA to clear customs.
that is the fact

 

[misteright1_99]

my friend, we dont offer warranty, it is difficult to operate.
Raw motor is our distributors, they offer six months warranty to their distributors.
thanks
Nick

Your company doesnt warranty the engines they sell? You mean that Raw is extending a 6 month warranty to their customers without the manufacturer offering any compensation?

 

[mabman]

Spam is spam, not matter how you slice it.

 

[amtnick]

Your company doesnt warranty the engines they sell? You mean that Raw is extending a 6 month warranty to their customers without the manufacturer offering any compensation?

no need to cheat you, my friends
we dont offer warranty to them, but our distributors offer 6 months warranty to their customers.
and we get Chrismas gifts from our distributors

 

[Pablo]

OK I'll bite, who are your distributors in the USA?

 

[misteright1_99]

no need to cheat you, my friends
we dont offer warranty to them, but our distributors offer 6 months warranty to their customers.
and we get Chrismas gifts from our distributors

Is this the standard of the Industry, or just your factories policy? I looked on Grubees site and the Distributors there are compensated by the Manufacturer/Exporter for 3 months in the way of credits on manufacturing defects....

"Engine Kit Warranty Policy: A 90 day limited factory warranty is given on all products except Russian engines and Model A export engine kits: Warranty is administrated by the WD to the end user and supported by a credit memo on future purchases from China GAS. Our Mission Statement: Striving for Quality and Customer Satisfaction is Job #1. Nothing less is acceptable: The Gru-Bee / China GAS expectation is to have continued progress in the WD market penetration by producing the best frame mount bicycle engine kits with the best accessories and options available."

 

[amtnick]

OK I'll bite, who are your distributors in the USA?

Raw distiributes our engine kits.
they odered about 2000units in last 2 months.
we have good quality and even better than Grubee.
Grubee only look like professional, but in fact he is not.
his advandage is that his wife is Chinese, so that help him a lot to cooperate with chinese factory.

 

[amtnick]

I dont want to bash Grubee engine kits, but I know from some their customers that their engine kits are not good, only because they start this business earlier and have their brand, so they sell a lot.

 

[misteright1_99]

I dont want to bash Grubee engine kits, but I know from some their customers that their engine kits are not good, only because they start this business earlier and have their brand, so they sell a lot.

The quality of THEIR product was not the issue. I was wondering why YOUR factory does not offer a warranty to your distributors, and theirs did.....
It seems that they stand behind their product and feel comfortable to offer a manufacturers warranty, where as you do not......

As far as the quality of YOUR engines, the 2nd picture in the following thread shows the poor quality control when it comes to YOUR casting, so your right you shouldnt be BASHING anyone.......

http://www.motoredbikes.com/showthread.php?t=13408&page=4

 

[Hot Dog Piggy Tails]

Epa

Ive done some research. The Feb of 2009 on 48 and 60cc the 55 and 66 are already EPA And have been.. the doc is probably available.

Ill Assure you this is the Skinny.
After the feb 10th date that is already applied for the Jiali is Compliant on the 48,55(Already),60,and 66(Already). They also have the more affordable Center mounted Hiu SHeng Shan SPIRAL GEAR (CnC) in the 8 Shaped Cover Style! Ill have them in about 6 mo. if all planned works out Right. Peace Nick Jack Seems like a real descent Guy.