What A Horrible Misalignment!

Hey Quenton:

Here's a shot of the pulley alignment without the belt: It's nearly perfect!

With the belt on, then you have what's in my first picture, a large angular misalignment.

Quenton...if I must have my clutch modified, will you do the job?

Let's see...Clutch rebuild required, new Lifters required, new Belts installed, intake and exhaust restrictions removed, triple tree alignment cocked...whatever happened to the Whizzer that you could buy and begin riding without another thought?

I'm almost sorry I bought this brand-new defective bike, which now has 100 miles on it.

I paid $1150 for it, but would be willing to sell it for less before it becomes a money sponge. This bike is truly a "lemon", and is probably only good for parts, and I wouldn't even trust many of THEM!

HAL
 

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Don't give up Hal. I said before on the forum that I bought my 99 for $1000. & have another grand in it. But I love it. It runs great cruisin at over 50 mph. I still need to upgrade my rear wheel. I still have the bad hub.
Stay with it. The end result is worth the work. There's a lot of good guys on the forum that will help you. Quenton is my mentor. Here is one of the many pics I took at his house. He's standing with some of his many Whizzers.
Again Hal, don't give up on your Whizzer.
 

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hi Hal
have tried to stay off your threads since I truly do not know much regarding Whizzer's
have noticed though
many have spent much time with you
so as to try and help you get on the road
hoping that you will be able in time to work through the rough spots

and ride that Whizzer MB THING
 
Hey Jbcruizin'

Quenton is MY Mentor too!

And so are Motorbike Mike, Kilroy, and others including Yourself! All Good Guys, who graciously offer their advice, opinions, explanations, instructions, pictures, and encouragement!

It's pretty sad when I'm told my auto clutch needs a rebuild after only 100 miles of LIGHT use, but Quenton should know! Also, I could never get that twisted triple-tree straightened out either, even after religiously following all the steps given by one of you Good Guys.

Yeah...this bike is becoming a disgusting collection of Defective Foreign Parts, unlike that wonderful American-Made Whizzer Pacemaker that I rode 57 years ago!

I remember about 40 years ago when a bunch of guys from work who built their own minibikes used to carve paths in the Coyote Hills of Fullerton on weekends. One of the guys let me use one of his minibikes, which had a flathead Briggs & Stratton engine with an auto clutch.

Now THERE was an auto clutch!

At just above idle, that sucker took hold with a snap and never slipped! I sure wish Oscar could do that!

I'm so discouraged that today I called the used car dealer who sold me Oscar and asked him if he would let me trade it back for the Red Slip-Clutch model that was there when I bought Oscar.

He told me he had sold it earlier.

I guess I'll just try to sell the bike before it really starts costing me money!

Happy New Year...
HAL
 
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Hey Quenton:

That first picture you posted is so up-close and expanded that I don't know what the heck I'm lookin' at!

The other two pictures show a steel pin. Is this the pin that is press-fit in the engine case that the clutch arm pivots on?

Thanks...
HAL
 
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Hi Hal, I've been following your Whizzer adventure from the very start. I bought my Whizzer a year and a half ago not knowing anything about them, just that I really liked the looks of them. I too had many of the same issues you are having and was luckly enough to stumble across this web site. With the help of many of the good guys here my Whizzer is performing great and is a joy to ride. Just a couple of things left to do and it should be "bullett proof". I'm so glad I stuck with it, really love this little motoredbike. Sorry to see you get discouraged. Maybe you'll have a change of heart in a couple of days.

Good luck,

Randy
 
Hi Hal

this may sound silly -- but I will put it out there to you anyway

can you possibly afford to buy a good quality friction drive setup ?
Station friction with 1 1/4" drive wheel -- I think it's fairly flat where you are ?

then you would have someTHING so as to get your RIDE ON
it would be ready to ride -- at all times

and then when you feel like tinkering
you would also have your Whizzer
which once you get all of the kinks worked out
should be a fair ride -- most of the time

I think that you are just lacking from some good motor bike riding time

just a thought as I head out to ride that THING this morning
I think that's what you want to be able to do also Hal
ride that THING -- right now
I or we -- don't blame you...
 
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Hey Summit Person:

I never did like those Mickey-Mouse friction drives! They seem like toys.

There are some grades where I am...it's not all flat up here.

Thanks for your input, MM.

HAL
 
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Hal,
I must say that wile you are having issues you are not too far from having a bullet proof Whizzer. As far as the clutch goes I think you would call what Qenton does to it more of an upgrade than a rebuild. The improved reliability and better shoe contact area is worth the price of admission. Those shoe pivot pins on certain clutch models can loosen up but Quenton can fix that too. Please read the stickies at the top of the Whizzer forum if you have not done so already.

The instant lock up you want would make your Whizzer a dog and not allow you to have smooth take off and engagement from a stop. I would not want it to lock solid until I got some road speed a little RPM. It will lock sooner and sooner as it breaks in too. I notice a huge difference on mine as it has almost broken in at about 500 miles. I can take off and reduce the throttle at low speed and it will lock and stay locked at about 2000 to 2300 rpm. Roll the throttle to wide open and it will slip a small amount until I get to about 2800 rpm where it fully locks up at speed. Before break in I had slip under load at all times below 3000 rpm.

One factor you may be missing out on is the manufacturer support. Hal your dealer is an authorized dealer and you can get warranty through him. You can also call and register your bike directly with Whizzer. They will know the serial # and can tell you if you are the first owner. The clutch however I would just have Quenton do the upgrade for you.

My personal experience with Whizzer warranty has been outstanding! They have provided replacement parts and done their best to try to make me happy. Dave @ Whizzer has been a huge help. They seem like great folks at Whizzer and for me, at least they have given me first class customer service. While their product may have some issues they do stand behind it. The NE5 is in fact a very good product with great potential. Once refinements and needed upgrades are done it is transformed into a fun and reliable one of a kind motored bike. IMHO

Note also Hal, I have the 70mm clutch and I love it because even at 230# I can go up almost any grade without needing to pedal. They come in a 90mm, 70mm and a tree stump pulling 50mm. I love my 70mm and would not trade it for anything unless I lived where it was flat everywhere.

Kep1a
 
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