Overlooked opportunity

amiga65

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Hello.
Being new to motor bikes and not a mechanic or machinest. That said I have been reading these post on the forum till I'm going blind. There are two things I have figured out #1 quality of the HT, #2 there are machinest here on the forum. The way I see it is add #1 + #2= after market Quality. I have no idea what it would take to make a cylender head that is true and to specks or a cylender that is sleeved and ported properly but I can see a good after market bussiness. I,m sure the machinest here have thought about this, but I hav'nt come across any home made engine components on the forum yet.
As I said I'm no machenest or metal worker so I have no idea what this would take. Just My thoughts

P.S. Don't beat Me up to hard on this just wondering.
 
there's some talk around
regarding kind of -- rebuilding the HTs up strong and fast -- this cost way extra money
but my thoughts
is it worth it considering they are very inexpensive to buy new ??
MM
 
Creative Engineering, a member on the forum, is making a new 80ccc HT engine for that very reason.
 
Hello Mountainman.
I feel hounerd that You Were first to reply as I will be using some of Your tips to make My first bike safer and more reliable. Now please forgive Me if I am out of line, But I keep thinking of the wifes 98 cent can opener, about once a month she gets a new one because its inexpesive enough, I know bad comparison BTW about 6 months ago I paid about $8 for a new one got a but chewing but it still works and I see it going for another 6 months at least. I am buy no means rich I'm just trying to make it, in fact this hope and change **** is killing Me. Now I love the look of the HT motor, good clasic look as I have seen on some fine bikes in pic. gallery. But even though I'm dirt broke I would gladly save a bit more for quality.

P.S. please look up all My posts 7 or 8 and give Me feedback I am looking for safety and reliabilaty.

Cheers amiga65
 
A large number of ppl here(particularly newcomers) seem to be fixated on cheapness....cheap kits/cheap bikes/cheap accessories,not realizing that it's false economy cos the amount of repairs u have to do & the time between repairs(plus downtime)........it's dangerous all this cheapness.
I have & gladly pay twice as much for premium quality;IF available.
Chris Hill from Canada & Rock Solid Engines from Oz aspire to this premium quality philosophy so accordingly their kits arn't cheap........bottom line is man u get what u pay for.
 
I feel honored just knowing

Hello Mountainman.
I feel hounerd that You Were first to reply
But even though I'm dirt broke I would gladly save a bit more for quality.

I feel honored just knowing that you were honored
hold on I am getting dizzy here !!
thank you
on a serious note
it's a shame but there seems not to be at this time
a lower end middle ground
hopefully someone will come in and prove me wrong here ??
but it seems that from up top the mountain
than we have the low end being around 1 to 2 hundred dollars for set ups
then there's a jump to around 4 or a little more hundred dollars
if you could get to the aprox 4 hundred dollar mark in a short time
I would say -- do that -- in the long run -- a lot of trouble free riding
if not I would say -- get the 1 to 2 hundred ((thing)) set up

and ride the heck out of that MB thing

as you know those are -- just for engines and drive units
then we have our bicycles
here we go again
starting at around (how did they do that again) 100 dollars
and going up to ?????????? skys the limit

MM
 
I agree completely, but I think the US labor costs and development expense are what is holding people back. Sure, a many people on here would buy one, but there are also the types who complain that the $200 shift kit is too high. The whole range of taste is present on the forums, you have guys who want to keep the whole build under $200, and then guys who would do whatever it takes to build a fast and reliable machine. I tend to be in the middle of the bell curve :)

Time will test my theory, but I think having gears and keeping the engine in a survivable RPM range will do wonders for extending the life of the engine. They were not designed to scream at max RPM all day long.
 
Glad to hear from You all.
If You read My welome to forum post You know why I have to build this thing after searching the net the honda 50cc is the best bang for the buck, but the HT is the look I want I truly wish it were the other way around, but You know wish in one hand etc.
The pics. You all have posted only confirms this is the only motor that will work for Me.
And with all Your guidance I hope to display a top notch bike of My own in the gallery.

Cheers Richard.

P.S. Thanks Ed the Wife caght Me checking out You'r er bike now I'm cut off for the next week or 2 :)
 
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Creative Engineering, a member on the forum, is making a new 80ccc HT engine for that very reason.

Jim's the real thing with a complete shop and the skills to match, and responsible for some of the best and most sound upgrades available. He's the only person I know of who has seen the importance of balancing HT crankshafts and taking the pains to offer it. Yet a in recent post he alluded the market was just too small to build out this business. Maybe he'll chime in.
 
That's what I was afraid of. It's a balance as others have said. Cheap, disposable, modifiable....vs. golden, perfect and expensive. Part of it is, at the heart of this very "hobby" - modifying the engine, just enough to make it ______________ (fill in the personal blank*) while not really crying when it croaks. With a $500+ engine (and still a few more mods), the spousal unit notices........I'm just saying it hits the wallet a bit harder.

* reliable, fun, quick.....your choice.
 
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