U.S. Federal law regarding sale & use of motorized vehicles.

from the retired government ((City worker))

If MBs ever become numerous enough, cash strapped states will see a perceived revenue source to legislate for.

you are right I think HV
MB's probably will be a state new source of revenue
once these guys realize -- there are some monies that they can grab

15 to 50 bucks a year paid to DMV sounds about right
lets face it
small price to pay for a great ride

MM
 
Saw the local poolice up ahead at a light on my ride today. I pulled the clutch and killed it, kept peddling ( I peddle often anyway) and he didn't even notice me as he passed. I'm just going to do my best not to push the issue and fly under the radar. I don't want to find out I'm not legal.
 
According to Jerry it means something in oregon (pedals), but according to a police officer who stopped me after my tail light fell off, as long as it is under 50cc, you don't even need a license (I also read this in a newspaper awhile ago). All that is required is that you are 16 or older and you must carry proof of this.

All that's needed on anything motorized in oregon is headlight, taillight (doesn't even have to be a brake light on a bicycle), and some type of turn signals. Turn signals could be lights, or your arms (left arm up for turning right, left arm to the side for turning left, left arm down for stopping (in emergencies))
Sorry, the officer you spoke with was misinformed as to the law in Oregon.

Maximum allowable engine displacement is 35cc. Also, if the reason you don't have a license to drive is as a result of a suspension for any reason, you may not legally operate any motor vehicle - which includes even an electric assisted bicycle, on the public roads.

http://www.oregon.gov/ODOT/DMV/vehicle/pocketbike_factsheet.shtml
 
Motor-ASSISTED bicycle.

Memorize those words !!

Challenge a moped to an "engine off- pedals only" race.......

I'm not tryin to be deviant, cynical or any of the rest here but I wish to put a spin on things. "MOTOR ASSISTED" nothing!

If you get stopped and they even ask or act like they've got a problem with the bike then you are better off not saying nothing more than needed. If asked, I was using the pedals, period! Well I heard it running. I told you I was using the pedals, sure I was trying to start it but it wouldn't run. Well I clocked you at 25mph and it's hot. Could have been the friction from tryin to start it, had to pedal real hard to get it going that fast. Lawyer please- PERIOD!

I'm almost thinking about making a small key or interlock out of a toothpick or something. Something that could be easily replaced after a "panic stop" and looks real innocent on the ground after you pull it and drop it. If the bike goes to the impound, all the better. Your Honor, the officer accussed me of having the bike running. I didn't have the key on me that night, nor was one found in my possesion. How do you think that Judge would rule?

I'd like Hough's oppinion on this because he deals with it more. Think a key would help your side?
 
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Sorry, the officer you spoke with was misinformed as to the law in Oregon.

Maximum allowable engine displacement is 35cc. Also, if the reason you don't have a license to drive is as a result of a suspension for any reason, you may not legally operate any motor vehicle - which includes even an electric assisted bicycle, on the public roads.

http://www.oregon.gov/ODOT/DMV/vehicle/pocketbike_factsheet.shtml

That's just frigging stupid, you can ride a low speed electric bike without a license but ONLY if you license is not suspended. That's the most rediculous thing I've ever heard. Where did they come up with that you must be ELLEGABLE to get a license. Insane!!
Oregon must have had slot of people lose their license for DUIs that then rode mopeds then they prolly changed the law from not needing a license for a moped to needing one because those DUI people started using mopeds to get around and then those same people started riding electric bikes but still rode them drunk so they said screw that and made it the way it stands today. In NJ. You're not even allowed to ride an electric bike AT ALL on public roads for the exact reason I just stated about for Oregon.
 
Frankly, anyone stupid enough to drive while under the influence - be that influence alcohol, marijuana, or many other perception and reaction altering chemicals, deserves suspension of the privilrege of operating machinery - anything more complicated than a zipper, IMO.

"Nanny-state" my aching arse - your "rights" do NOT include the right to endanger others. If your past behavior demonstrates so little concern for the safety of those arround you, you ought to be prevented from further endangering others until such time as you demonstrate, through some reasonable period of responsible behavior, a sensible awareness of your own limits.
 
Frankly, anyone stupid enough to drive while under the influence - be that influence alcohol, marijuana, or many other perception and reaction altering chemicals, deserves suspension of the privilrege of operating machinery - anything more complicated than a zipper, IMO.

"Nanny-state" my aching arse - your "rights" do NOT include the right to endanger others. If your past behavior demonstrates so little concern for the safety of those arround you, you ought to be prevented from further endangering others until such time as you demonstrate, through some reasonable period of responsible behavior, a sensible awareness of your own limits.

Believe me, if one is unfortunate enough to have their life tragically visited by the horror of a loved one wastefully taken out by the wanton act of a drunk driver, if you had to endure the subsequent useless and wistful apologies of newfound sobriety....too late....there is no other way to view this.
 
I'm 53 years old. In my lifetime I've lost a little brother (whom I watched die as the result of the actions of a man in a drunken rage), three close cousins, and 7 friends to drunkenness - either their own, or that of others. I've cried my own tears, and done what little I could to provide comfort to loved ones as they tried to cope with the loss themselves.

I have zero sympathy for drunks or those who get high and act irresponsibly. While I believe that adults should be permitted any behavior they want not harmful to others, I draw the line there. If your actions put others at unreasonable risk of bodily harm, then you need externally imposed restraints. If you don't like that, don't act stupidly.
 
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