No Ht Motors For Usa In 2010

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I came across this on the grubee website today.
SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME THIS ISN'T TRUE.

Hay USA!! Important Note for the upcoming 2010 year:
In 2010, at least as of Nov. 5th 2009, non of the 2 cycle engine factories in China have been able to get their engines EPA certified to the new rating of 40CFR 1051.

Meaning; no 2 cycle bike engine shipments will be able to enter the USA after Jan 1. 2010 unless something changes. From Jan. 2008 to March 2009 the EPA rating has been 40CFR 90 off road non hand held but now changed to 1051 off road recreational vehicle which is the same class as a snowmobile. USA Import Buyers beware;

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE WAKE ME UP FROM THIS NIGHTMARE:confused::confused::confused::devilish::devilish::cry::cry:
 
25mph max stinks though, because a lot of people can pedal a road bike 25-35 mph. So mobike classed as bicycle should get at least 35 limit.

My wife went on vacation to some islands in Florida, and said that people were driving to work on pocketbikes and no one cared. It was normal there. She said mo bikes were everywhere too.



If I may be allowed to regress just a little to the topic of state regulation of MB's. I've long noticed much very good legislation comes from Florida and if my understanding is correct, they have placed MB's in the same class as bicycles. That means they are legal without registration or insurance, with restrictions. Those being that an operators license (car or motorcycle) is required, 50cc & 25 mph max. I could live with that.

If we want to do that in other states, the people that did it in Florida could tell how they did it, a template, so to speak. No need to re-invent the wheel.
 
Real simple Kerf, It's warmer down there than in Buffalo NY... In the minds eye of the Police and lawmakers, HT's are more practicle transportation although they are no less practicle up here...

The climate appealed to the market and people scouped 'em up... Wasn't that necessarily people stuck together but there were a lot of them.

One should not even compare pocketbikes to our Bicycles... A great many of kids were hurt on those things up here. While I am a MB enthusiast, they have no business on the roads... It's plain to see in some cirumstances why our lawmakers feel they need to protect us, such as the case where a flip tard parent turns their 8yo loose on a pocketbike (sitting lower than the bumper of the adverage car) and cries he got run over...

With regard to the 49cc Federal law, some of us live in places where they could nail you one way or another as previously describbed by NY DMV deffinitions in previous post... I've got no problem obeying the laws when they make sense but why should I have went with a 49cc here? Common sense says any vehicle that approaches 200mpg should be legal!!! I bet if you follow the money, there's a lobby somewhere stuffing pockets in D.C., supporting the Ban in a closed door agenda. There's the enemy! Big oil maybe?

Me thinks you misses the point, again. It's not the climate that's the issue, it's the PROCESS that, I'm reasonably sure, a relatively small number of advocates used to move both Houses of the State Legislature. Politicians are generally interested in big causes, big meaning it will generate votes by the hundred thousand or campaign contributions by the million. I doubt these advocates had either.
 
I know the guy's from Spooky tooth(FL) tried to get organized... I don't think they had legislation changed tho?
 
I agree 100-200mpg should be hailed as king in the gasoline vehicle world, even if its just a motor bicycle/ALMO. These things should get tax free status!
 
25mph max stinks though, because a lot of people can pedal a road bike 25-35 mph. So mobike classed as bicycle should get at least 35 limit.

That'd be tough considering most states have 25mph limits on mopeds, which need license, registration and insurance.

The demise of the sub $150 bicycle engine kit will severely shrink the market base for these things. After all, bicycle engine kits have been around for decades. (Tanaka Bike bugs, etc.) And they really haven't gotten any traction until the price dropped below $150. And what I call "traction" is kind of weak too, MB'ers in general are a fringe group.

Also, FWIW - don't like the "ALMO" acronoym. Sounds like we are trying to hide something. Motorized bicycle is what it is, let's call it that and differentiate it from a moped - which is a purpose built "light motorcycle". The pedals are there just for starting and decoration. Ever try and pedal a moped a couple of miles?
 
Predatory capitalism...

There is no such thing as predatory capitalism any more than predatory nature. The characteristics are the same for both, just as it should be. Those that can adapt to the enviroment survive, those that are too weak to survive become liberals.
 
Do you support the using of legislation to cut out the low end bike kits, so only taxeable vehicles are readily accessible, or the price of a bike kit is prohibitively expensive?

There is no such thing as predatory capitalism any more than predatory nature. The characteristics are the same for both, just as it should be. Those that can adapt to the enviroment survive, those that are too weak to survive become liberals.
 
Yes, and their motors aren't auxiliary! :cry:

And they already have a common name: Moped.

So ALMOs are motorized bicycles. I hear bicycles called mopeds a lot more than I hear mopeds being called bicycles. I think it would clear up the confusion.



That'd be tough considering most states have 25mph limits on mopeds, which need license, registration and insurance.

The demise of the sub $150 bicycle engine kit will severely shrink the market base for these things. After all, bicycle engine kits have been around for decades. (Tanaka Bike bugs, etc.) And they really haven't gotten any traction until the price dropped below $150. And what I call "traction" is kind of weak too, MB'ers in general are a fringe group.

Also, FWIW - don't like the "ALMO" acronoym. Sounds like we are trying to hide something. Motorized bicycle is what it is, let's call it that and differentiate it from a moped - which is a purpose built "light motorcycle". The pedals are there just for starting and decoration. Ever try and pedal a moped a couple of miles?
 
Do you support the using of legislation to cut out the low end bike kits, so only taxeable vehicles are readily accessible, or the price of a bike kit is prohibitively expensive?

This isn't Capitalism, this is the work of the anti-capitalist liberal environmental movement.
 
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