The state of California needs to be takrn to court

[Badger]

The state of California is very discrimitory towards the Gas powered Motorized bicycle. Roadies pedaling race bicycles can reach speeds up to 50 miles per hour and Electric bicycles can be juiced to 72 volts making them very fast. They are allowe to ride with no rules but the Gas bike rider has to have a DMV registration, A Motorcycle license , lights,motorcyle license, A horn, a speedo and a mirror. To top it off they cannot ride in the bicycle lane.
The reason for them being banned from the bicycle lane is safety. Well the state of California by not allowing Gas bikes to use the bicycle lane is putting riders lives in very serious danger.
This is just wrong! They did have a total ban due to carbon violations but that seems to now be under control with the new 2011 models. Again Electric bicycles that go 20 miles per hour accelerate faster then gas bikes and when juiced to 72 volts can reach speeds of 45 miles per hour in just seconds.
The DMV,CHP and CARB need to all be called out as to why they descriminate against poor people trying to ride these bikes to work. They make it very costly to rides a $300.00 dollar gas bicycle.

DMV fees $$$$
License,registration and plate
Driving school to get Motorcycle license $$$$
This is just a buch of B$$$$$$$

 

[ibdennyak]

The state of California is very discrimitory towards the Gas powered Motorized bicycle. Roadies pedaling race bicycles can reach speeds up to 50 miles per hour and Electric bicycles can be juiced to 72 volts making them very fast. They are allowe to ride with no rules but the Gas bike rider has to have a DMV registration, A Motorcycle license , lights,motorcyle license, A horn, a speedo and a mirror. To top it off they cannot ride in the bicycle lane.
The reason for them being banned from the bicycle lane is safety. Well the state of California by not allowing Gas bikes to use the bicycle lane is putting riders lives in very serious danger.
This is just wrong! They did have a total ban due to carbon violations but that seems to now be under control with the new 2011 models. Again Electric bicycles that go 20 miles per hour accelerate faster then gas bikes and when juiced to 72 volts can reach speeds of 45 miles per hour in just seconds.
The DMV,CHP and CARB need to all be called out as to why they descriminate against poor people trying to ride these bikes to work. They make it very costly to rides a $300.00 dollar gas bicycle.

DMV fees $$$$
License,registration and plate
Driving school to get Motorcycle license $$$$
This is just a buch of B$$$$$$$

Unfortunately, the result would be to regulate electrics in this age of more and more restrictions. Maybe Chuck Norris should have been governor instead of Arnie.

 

[BiMoPed]

Your rant here is is full of incorrect statements and misinformation.

CA of all the states has some of the best regulations on mb's.

Motorized bicycles are not only allowed to ride in the bicycle lane they
are required to and you can go up to 30 mph legally.

Who told you mb's are banned from the bicycle lane???

There has never been a ban on riding motorized bicycles in CA.

Electric bikes have a 20 mph speed limit in CA but it is never enforced
that I have heard about.

Where do you ride where you are having these problems?

The license plate is a lousy $19 one time fee.

You can get a temp M1 or M2 that is good for a year.

The state of California is very discrimitory towards the Gas powered Motorized bicycle. Roadies pedaling race bicycles can reach speeds up to 50 miles per hour and Electric bicycles can be juiced to 72 volts making them very fast. They are allowe to ride with no rules but the Gas bike rider has to have a DMV registration, A Motorcycle license , lights,motorcyle license, A horn, a speedo and a mirror. To top it off they cannot ride in the bicycle lane.
The reason for them being banned from the bicycle lane is safety. Well the state of California by not allowing Gas bikes to use the bicycle lane is putting riders lives in very serious danger.
This is just wrong! They did have a total ban due to carbon violations but that seems to now be under control with the new 2011 models. Again Electric bicycles that go 20 miles per hour accelerate faster then gas bikes and when juiced to 72 volts can reach speeds of 45 miles per hour in just seconds.
The DMV,CHP and CARB need to all be called out as to why they descriminate against poor people trying to ride these bikes to work. They make it very costly to rides a $300.00 dollar gas bicycle.

DMV fees $$$$
License,registration and plate
Driving school to get Motorcycle license $$$$
This is just a buch of B$$$$$$$

 

[RedBaronX]

I have never lived in CA, I was there once a few years ago for only three days, and I have never read their traffic laws for any sort of vehicles. But a pedal bike going 50 MPH is incredibly uncommon, especially when you think of it in perspective of ratio vs. number of all pedal bikes on the road.

 

[BiMoPed]

I have never lived in CA, I was there once a few years ago for only three days, and I have never read their traffic laws for any sort of vehicles. But a pedal bike going 50 MPH is incredibly uncommon, especially when you think of it in perspective of ratio vs. number of all pedal bikes on the road.

Badger is blowing smoke....

I got passed the other night heading north in THE BIKE LANE on PCH in Newport Beach by a spandex guy that was blowing through red lights.
I caught up to him and paced him at 26 to 28 mph. He couldn't keep it up
for very long.
50 mph is downhill which does not count!

We are having a big ride from Long Beach Sun April 3rd and I'm expecting up to 50 bikes.
We will be riding 30 miles on PCH in the BICYCLE LANE and blowing through
Huntington Beach by the pier on a very busy Sunday.

Badger if you are in SoCal please come by and we will set you straight.

i have ridden about 3000 miles recently and never been stopped even
though i don't have the plate yet. A lot of those miles were in the bike lane.

$19 is all you need to spend for your plate and registration for as long as
you own your bike. No insurance needed.

I just love you guys that are going to sue CA. Hope you have a lot of
money to blow or a free lawyer.
Good Luck!!!
Some people just don't know when they have it good.

 

[Badger]

First of the only part that was exagerated was the Roadies going 50 they can do that only on a incline by Roadies I mean non MTN Bikes syles like Olympic racers ride Ihave went 45 MPH at full pedal down hill in the bike lane and I am no Olympic rider. On the flat I average only 10 to 15 MPH but still It is possible to go over 20 MPH pedaling.
Electric rider sells ver powerful Electric bicycle kits go to their link and see for your self. My friend has went 45 MPH on his 72 volt kit.
As for the laws here is a Ventura area link see it for yourself:
http://www.vcreporter.com/cms/story...rcement_on_illegal_gas_powered_bicycles/7450/

San Luis Obispo also enforces these laws. Pretty scary.

 

[Badger]

Hey Red Baron I am in SLO county and the Roadies can book it down Hill the Cal Poly University boys are pretty fast pedalers. You guys are on the beack a little different.
I agree on the flats you can beat the any pedal powered bicycles. The elctric bikes can fry the tires when they have 72 volt very fast on the take off. The 48 volt bikes are still fast off of the line but slower at top end about 20 to 30 mph.

Here is a pretty fast Electric Bike link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E81KFTsi__c&feature=related

 

[Badger]

Also I agree maybe we should just accept it or the Electric bikes would get tagged with the sane restrictions.

 

[BiMoPed]

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As for the laws here is a Ventura area link see it for yourself:
http://www.vcreporter.com/cms/story...rcement_on_illegal_gas_powered_bicycles/7450/

San Luis Obispo also enforces these laws. Pretty scary.

V C Section 21207.5 Motorized Bicycles Prohibited Operation

Motorized Bicycles: Prohibited Operation

21207.5. Notwithstanding Sections 21207 and 23127 of this code, or any other provision of law, no motorized bicycle may be operated on a bicycle path or trail, bikeway, bicycle lane established pursuant to Section 21207, equestrian trail, or hiking or recreational trail, unless it is within or adjacent to a roadway or unless the local authority or the governing body of a public agency having jurisdiction over such path or trail permits, by ordinance, such operation.

Amended Ch. 373, Stats. 1979. Effective January 1, 1980.

A BIKE LANE is a whole different meaning than what this law says.
The BIKE LANE is on the side of the road.

Personally I don't want mb's on trails or on the strand with bicycles either.
Turn your motor off and pedal.

Not very scary....

1.Registering with the DMV and displaying a special license plate (Vehicle Codes 5030-5035)

2.Have a motorcycle license (VC 12804.9)

3.Have the proper lights mounted for driving at night, a mirror and a horn (VC 24015)

4.Must wear a motorcycle helmet VC 27803)

5. Riders can’t use bicycle lanes[SIC] (VC 21207.5), due to the high rate of speed gas powered can go versus human powered.

 

[RedBaronX]

A BIKE LANE is a whole different meaning than what this law says.
The BIKE LANE is on the side of the road.

Personally I don't want mb's on trails or on the strand with bicycles either.

Not very scary....

yeah that's probably what the "unless it is within or adjacent to a roadway" part means...

Here in WI, MBs can ride in the bike lane-- I do if I need to or want to, and that depends on other traffic. Even when I do, I consider it "theirs", meaning a pedal bike lane.

Don't know about our bike trail/path laws since I don't know where the paths actually are...