thanks for all the replies, right now i live in oxnard, soon to be frazier park. i wanted to get the motor kit to ride around the forest trails to go camping whenever i wanted! would have made it as silent as possable first. in still going back and forth betweeen the motor kit or a better self defence weapon against active mountain lions and bears which might take priority. i know its rear to see them but i have seen them multiple time while out hiking. i could get a snub nose .357 (for light weight carry yet still have a lot of power) for the same price of a realy nice motor and extras to make it as near silent as possable.