Moving to AZ with no license...

Zeppelin

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Are they Gonna let me truely ride an MB on the streets of a town such as Kingman AZ where I'm about to move to?
 
Well I don't know jack about Arizona laws, and it never crossed my mind to look them up. Many states will accept a different state's license as a valid driver's license. Do you have one from where you are? According to the state laws, not municipal, you don't need a license, now that could be different depending where you are, check local laws too, they sometimes place restrictions.

Here's the kicker, if you operate it faster than 20mph,then you need to have it registered licensed insured and ect as a moped, now that would very much be dependent on being caught driving more than 20mph,if you are it looks like they would impound the bike, and fine you.

So look at driving under 20mph untill you've become familiar with how the law is applied and handled by the police. Talk to other people with motorized bikes when you arrive, ask them how the cops are about motorized bicycles around there, and even better, follow up with the local pd, ask them how they feel about the subject, look for a sergeant to talk to, if they generally have the 'it doesn't bother me at all but I have to say you can't drive faster than 20mph but if you do I wouldn't feel as if I had to pull you over' kind of attitude then you should be fine as long as you keep the speed limit for normal traffic and don't interfere or heed normal traffic flow.

Research, I know a lot of members here are from Arizona, see if you an get the opinion of a person who live near where you are planning on moving.

Good luck, have fun, wear a damn helmet.
 
To Zeppelin and Frankenstein: Please look up www.marcstevens.net and go through his website. Cops need at least 1 of the 3 elements to a valid cause of action to file against you. (Injured Party/Property Damage; Violation of a Legal Right; Complaint has to be redressable by the court) Speed, helmet wearing (although I would recommend it), size of engine has no bearing on your right of use. Marc's students get tickets kicked out all the time. Marc is in Arizona by the way.
 
To Zeppelin and Frankenstein: Please look up www.marcstevens.net and go through his website. Cops need at least 1 of the 3 elements to a valid cause of action to file against you. (Injured Party/Property Damage; Violation of a Legal Right; Complaint has to be redressable by the court) Speed, helmet wearing (although I would recommend it), size of engine has no bearing on your right of use. Marc's students get tickets kicked out all the time. Marc is in Arizona by the way.

Thank you for this I'll keep these in mind
 
To Zeppelin and Frankenstein: Please look up www.marcstevens.net and go through his website. Cops need at least 1 of the 3 elements to a valid cause of action to file against you. (Injured Party/Property Damage; Violation of a Legal Right; Complaint has to be redressable by the court) Speed, helmet wearing (although I would recommend it), size of engine has no bearing on your right of use. Marc's students get tickets kicked out all the time. Marc is in Arizona by the way.
On second thought nevermind the thank you I think, I can't find any information about vehicles on that website, it's a disaster of linkage
 
I'm not about tickets, tickets implied you did something wrong and got the ticket. I'm about avoiding the entire situation that brings the possibility of getting a ticket. And if brought to the point where you get pulled over, probably by a rookie looking for his big break, then to stay firm that you have done nothing in the first place that was wrong, and that the bike is legal, and that you are being as cooperative as possible to show that you are not a problem to worry about, unlike the people the police are supposed to be after.
 
I'm not about tickets, tickets implied you did something wrong and got the ticket. I'm about avoiding the entire situation that brings the possibility of getting a ticket. And if brought to the point where you get pulled over, probably by a rookie looking for his big break, then to stay firm that you have done nothing in the first place that was wrong, and that the bike is legal, and that you are being as cooperative as possible to show that you are not a problem to worry about, unlike the people the police are supposed to be after.


Okay, well there are many variables to any situation. So I guess try to stay under the radar (???) See if there are any others with motored bikes in AZ. Connect with them.
 
I mean KCVale lives in Arizona so he would probably be one of the best people for reference on it.
 
I also would note that he has a success story menu, but what about the people who failed after following his advice, I'd like to see a percentage of good vs bad outcomes, he honestly seems like a waste of a human life. I do promote the idea that you should have and defend your rights under all aspects of the law and morality, but people like him give honest people a bad name.

He wants to give people a hard time and promotes people to get out of traffic tickets for the sake of doing so, even if they did break a rule and are deserving of the punishment, he says take the loophole out and get away with murder (not litteraly but I wouldn't put it past him)

He's the exact kind of person who forces law makers to tighten the ropes on everyone by changing or adding so many damned new parts to the law that it's become a law of "nothings aloud except" instead of the "everything's aloud except" which is what is ruining it for everyone and turning the country into exactly what those people are complaining about the country becoming, a communist nation.

That's why we can't have nice things, like motorized bicycles, in certain places, without needing a stack of papers saying we can. Because people like him break too many rules and use loopholes to get out of it, forcing the state to make it even harder to be legal by forcing you to get something to be legal, so they can take it away when you break the rules.

Why do you think prison exists, you are a free man till you commit a crime, then you are no longer free, because you did something worthy of punishment, and letting you go free to do it more simply isn't a moral thing to do. Public drunkenness earns you one or 2 days in a cell, murder earns you tens of years...

Its simple really. You break a rule, you man up and accept the punishment.
 
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