electric start "silver bullet train" engine

[Frankenstein]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Electric-St...ash=item281ded7a74:g:AfAAAOSwyKxXhbDR&vxp=mtr

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Electric-St...ash=item281eb92d9a:g:eCkAAOSwMtxXudOe&vxp=mtr

both by the same seller, know on ebay as the name "95877" of whom claims to be the manufacturer, and the information they gave me did check out, to an extent, but they didnt give me much, so they could've lied, also, their charging more than bikeberry, so if their the manufacturer, thats kinda stupid, seeing how you have a higher profit margin at the same price as bikeberry. also, five inquiries have been made into one of the items, not sure what that means in ebay language, but is says no questions have been answered, and when i asked them a question, they didnt answer it in the normal format, they messaged me. probably since they didnt wanna let everyone else know that they dont sell any parts for it whatsoever.

Well that seller is definitely not the supplier, the manufacturer is from China, these guys are based in the United States, also claims limited quantities available, the manufacturer is looking for wholesalers, so it's unlikely anything is in low quantities for them. Bikeberry is likely trying to rack in some large number of orders at the same price they have listed, the more orders they get then the more they should order then the less they have to pay per item, milking it really since they are selling it under pre-sale. Greedy bastards.

Anyway the listed people on eBay have one listing stating only 2 are left via ebays inventory option, the second listing is showing more than ten. Inquires are questions made to the seller about the item, after answering it they can post the question and answer as part of the listing, the questions asked could be about litteraly anything at all, but if you asked about parts specifically and they choose to answer via private message then it's probably because they don't have parts like you said, and won't admit it publicly.

I'll look into them a bit further and see what I can dig up. If they honestly are the manufacturer then they are breaking eBay policy by claiming the items are shipping from Florida when they are shipping from China. Also comes with the battery, that means the battery must be picked up separately here in the USA, then repackaged and shipped to a buyer.

Weird how it says it's an oil cooled clutch, makes me wonder what exactly this clutch is, seems like a lot of extra parts to die on us when we would less appreciate it... If anything I'll yank that cylinder and piston and stick it in my motor 70ccs Yea sign me up

 

[jatgm1]

my fear is that the cylinder is just as s**tty as a grubee but theres no replacements. so you know, chrome disappears and your boned. i mean, if the starter dies, at least i can just finagle it.

 

[Frankenstein]

I've been thinking of the possibility of putting a cast iron sleeve into one of the stock cylinders, I think it could outlast the rest of the motor if I did that.

 

[jatgm1]

hmm. how does one go about doing that, and how much would it cost to have it done? not even sure where to start.

 

[jatgm1]

you also still have to worry about the piston and rings, so you'd need a sleeve from something with a piston and cylinder thats 70cc, and fits the engine's specs, or youd need stuff custom made. that seems like an awful lot of hassle.

 

[Frankenstein]

Hassle definitely. But it would still be interesting, I'm seeing these large 100 cc duel cylinder airplane motors around:
http://m.ebay.com/itm/281926793720

Wonder what that would be like, I know it's nothing compared to a 5 cylinder radial aircraft motor in a bike but still would be cool.

Thinking of sticking it in a chopper style bicycle.

 

[jatgm1]

between the lack of mounting, and the fact that we would be using something clearly not street legal to any cop, i may as well just keep on with the grubee, i mean theres not clutching mechanism is there? so wouldn't you need a separate transmission for the engine? i mean, in theory, ya its cool, but in reality for someone looking for a simple bike kit with a wet clutch and electric start, this only solves one of those problems, whilst creating a slew of others. thats not to mention that the engine is inteneded to turn a propeller, the part of the engine that mounts to the propeller protrudes from the engine significantly, i see bent crankshaft's in the future of its use on a bicycle since you'll be yanking the thing from a point of leverage. and its sticking out pretty far so pedal clearance is a whole different issue. maybe for a two stroke motorcycle.

 

[Frankenstein]

between the lack of mounting, and the fact that we would be using something clearly not street legal to any cop, i may as well just keep on with the grubee, i mean theres not clutching mechanism is there? so wouldn't you need a separate transmission for the engine? i mean, in theory, ya its cool, but in reality for someone looking for a simple bike kit with a wet clutch and electric start, this only solves one of those problems, whilst creating a slew of others. thats not to mention that the engine is inteneded to turn a propeller, the part of the engine that mounts to the propeller protrudes from the engine significantly, i see bent crankshaft's in the future of its use on a bicycle since you'll be yanking the thing from a point of leverage. and its sticking out pretty far so pedal clearance is a whole different issue. maybe for a two stroke motorcycle.

Lol who invited the party pooper. So the motor could be a bit wide, is there ever a case of a perfect motor to bicyle mount set up? No. I could see this being a fun project, worse case scenario I have to put it on my handlebars with a 27 inch prop and use it to pull me around, heck, since I'd free up my bike frame I could put a second standard motor there too. @WINDY CITY BOB eat that Apple.

 

[Redmun]

it definitely looks sweet, but how would i go about finding parts to repair it if the manufacturer doesn't make them? how could i find the engine specs and a comparable engine for parts? im not saying it doesnt look great, that looks absolutely fantastic, but you know, when i got a scooter from china the thing looked great too. and it rode great! for a month, then over the total of 6 months died a terrible death. starter died, kickstarter snapped, frame bent then snapped, (after fixing with piping and duct tape) and after using an impact wrench to start it, the engine eventually siezed! and it had oil and proper maintenance! i just really find it hard to trust a brand with no parts for its products, so i thought if i could find an engine that has almost identical parts, or multiple engines that happen to have parts that fit, then this could be a good engine, WITH parts availability. is this engine based on any other engine? like the grubee skyhawk is based on the russian d-8?

Im fairly new to the motorbicycling industy i have invested in this engine and had it mounted first thing was the carb had to be on the leanest fuel notch was basicaly having to do 70+% in throttle just to get goin but once the tires are spinning had no problem accelerating ive rode it for two weeks and the battery died and didnt recharge so get a new one of those when ya get the kit and now am waiting to get paid so i can get that and also invested in the read valve carb kit let ya know if that solves the take off issue

 

[jatgm1]

when you say "i have invested in this engine" do you mean the electric start engine known as "silver bullet train" engine? thats fantastic! now i know someone that has the engine im researching, bird in the hand, worth two in the bush. would you be able to tell us if its the same cylinder size as the grubee skyhawk? like measure the space between the studs? the bolts holding the head/cylinder on, the top piece that gasoline explodes in? (just to clarify, you mentioned being new.) thats not a surefire thing, but if you took pictures of you measuring it we could try to draw some conclusions. would you also mind taking clear pictures of the starter, which i believe is the silver cylinder mounted on the engine, and the part of the engine the starter attaches to? preferably measuring the cylinder with a caliper, if you don't have one don't worry, clear pictures are worth a thousand words. also, if you experience any issues, please post them here with pictures of the issue if possible. also, when you get the new battery, please inform us if it dies again, as it may not be the battery, it may be the charging system. if that's the case, a new battery wouldn't do squat other than prolong the inevitable. when you had battery issues did it stop working while idling or while you were riding? or did it just decide to not start? i would be happy to try to help you with any issues you may have, i normally work on lawn mowers and weed whackers, so post anything you need help with on this thread and ill do my best to assist. plus we all learn about this new series of engines!