144 spoke rear wheel? Not possible it would seem

Discussion in 'Frame Mounted Engines' started by Chopper, Jul 3, 2007.

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  1. Chopper

    Chopper Guest

    Just curious whether a rear sprocket would fit?

  2. srdavo

    srdavo Active Member

    nope.....but would sure like to.
    Anyone know how to attach a sprocket to these 144's ?
  3. Chopper

    Chopper Guest

    Anybody?.... even an opinion would be cool.
  4. azbill

    azbill Active Member

    the space between the spokes doesn't leave much room for bolts
    even if you went half diam bolts and doubled the holes, I don't think you will fit a bolt in there :???:
  5. Barret

    Barret Guest

    I've always wondered about that myself, and then thought:
    I've always loved the look of the 144's, but they may have to be just for riding without an engine... :sad:
  6. JosephGarcia

    JosephGarcia Guest

    those bikes are pretty sweet. I think you will have to buy a new wheel for the rear though, and a new front wheel to make it match.

    flipping the handlebars so they are lower would make for an awesome riding experience, i imagine like barely holding on to a rocket. I always wanted a frame like that to try it. if you motorize it, take a pic with the bars flipped, ive never seen it and would like too

    haha anyways, good luck with that awesome frame.

    Edit: I realize that Chopper asked the original question, and srdavo potsed the pic. I assume Chopper is using this frame as well? Or do you want to add 144spoke wheels to your existing bike?
  7. Chopper

    Chopper Guest

    hey Joseph, I was looking at another project that is already fitted with 144's
    "I was just looking honey, really" ;)
  8. JosephGarcia

    JosephGarcia Guest

    srdavos pic got me all riled up at seeing a motorized version of that stretched frame.

    That bike is really nice as well though.
  9. japat100

    japat100 Guest

    i ran into the same problem ,,so i ended up using 8 3/16 bolts and nuts ,,and made a adapter plate ,,so i could center the sprocket on the wheel ,, there was enough space between the hub and the spokes to dril 8 holes ,, it took time and you would need a lathe ,, but the simple way is to get the right back wheel in the first place ,, i now have a nice looking bike after 200 hours of work with a motor made in china ,chain problem ,air leak problem , clutch problem ,vibration problem,and today the spark quit ,my advice is buy a $50 bicycle if you are going to put on one of these motors ,, if you go first class with all the bells,,etc, buy a 4 cycle Honda motor etc with a pull start ,or wait for a couple years

    there is going to be lots of changes and improvements i hope over the next couple years ,,i think i will wait before i build another one ,,100 hours is fun working on these kits ,,200 hours and still problem after problem no fun
  10. locoWelder

    locoWelder Guest

    I have to disagree with Japat100,If that bike makes you happy than buy it and build it..... 8)
  11. japat100

    japat100 Guest

    if it makes you happy ) that is the question ???? ( the other question that is important is how long are you going to be happy for ,,an hour,, a day,,,, a week,,,, what i am saying if you buy a bike with all the extra you will be the happiest guy on the planet as you head home with your new bicycle , you may loose some of your happiness when you spend as much paying someone with a lathe to make adapter for your back sprocket as you did buying buying your bike ,,,,,more happiness may be lost when you find out that the mounts don"t line up with your back wheel so now your sprocket is out of wrack ,, you may loose more happiness when you find out the frame size don"t fit the mounts ,,,,,,,the small items ,,,,,air leaks,, gas leaks,striped bolts ,coil failure ,vibration should not rob any of your happiness because we all except and expect these problems ,,, so my advice unless you have a machine shop full of tools ,and know how to use them,, stay away from any bicycle that have all the bells etc. and buy only a bike that these kits are built for ,, or your happiness could disappear sooner then you think .. now on the other hand if you have a machine shop you know all the changes that has to be made and lots of time on your hands then i would agree with ,,locoWelder ::If that bike makes you happy than buy it and build it..."".

    i thought i was going to be happy with my beautiful wife ,, i now have a ugly one thats works ,and i am very happy
    no.no. "i am safe " "she don"t read the forum "
  12. bamabikeguy

    bamabikeguy Active Member

    In the UTOPIAN forum, one of you would begin closing this topic, with a "SOLVED", "AGREED", YES or NO, in this case NO.

    Then in democratic fashion, 2 other MB's with experience and input would second and third the motion.

    There are many examples of that happening, the guillotine yesterday on the Texanarchist being the the latest, an overwhelming majority.

    On these tech issues, any moderator could then edit the title, as YES, NO or MAYBE, meaning if a casual or experienced reader scrolled through, with our excellent pics, he would arrive at the MBanswer.

    Then later a more organized moderator could pick up on the answered questions, move them to a category....

    If the new software has the power they are speaking of, we are going to be light years ahead of any other motorbike forum, if we haven't been since Tom built the thing.... 8)

    But we have to get this Tech stuff down to arriving at THE MB.answer on "details".

    "Collective consciousness" as it were, nobody but folks doing this idiotic hobby knows how fun it is, and we trust the opinions who DO share the enthusiasm.

    Even jpat has become a bhudda of enlightenment, and can fully participate, emeritus as it were. 8)

    I can't make an opinion on this unfamiliar topic, but as a casual reader AND utopianidealist, I'd put the motion in as NO, and if I hear a second and third, we'll fork this steak off the grill and call er DONE. :sad:

    NO TO THE 144
    , just ask jpats wife. :grin:

    This case study is important because of the software change, I know personally one, maybe two moderators are wandering down that path blind...... :???:
  13. Chopper

    Chopper Guest

    Ok.... Done!
  14. Jim H

    Jim H Guest

    Spooky tooth shows a radially laced wheel with a sprocket assembled to it... no detail but there it is.
  15. azvinnie

    azvinnie Guest

    roland, from spookytoothcycles builds'em, azkronic and l seen them first hand.
    he had'em in the back of his truck, they where blinding with chrome, with the az sun shine'n on em. l'm sure he knows how to do it, and in a safer manner. someone might want to email him for this info, 144's yes:cool:
  16. Stryker

    Stryker Guest

    I talked to Roland and he says it can be done, but It is very difficult and requires removing 9 spokes.
  17. Jim H

    Jim H Guest

    Well then as it interferes with the integrity of the wheel (nine spokes removed) that makes it a no? Maybe!
  18. Stryker

    Stryker Guest

    with a 135 still there you still have more than enough support. average wheels have 36 spokes, with a heavy duty having 12 guage, this has 144 at 14 guage, (only one size smaller) sounds solid.
  19. With 144 spokes,if you simply cut the nine spokes that are in the way and let the rubber mount keep the loose spokes on the rim so you still have that cool look,wouldn't the other 63 spokes on the left side(144 divided by 2 minus 9) be enough to keep it all cool?
    I would love to see a custom low rider with the twisted forks and chrome everything and those cool rims with a happy time. A bike like that would be ridden often instead of just displayed.
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  20. kevbo

    kevbo Guest

    Lots of small bolts, like 6-32's.