At night, no lights, wrong way, speed = diaster

Discussion in 'General Questions' started by Happy Valley, Aug 21, 2009.

  1. Happy Valley

    Happy Valley Active Member

    This happened on the road I live on, a couple of miles from my house.
    I don't know the riders but the followup in the morning paper says the guy on the MB is in "fair condition".

    This is a poorly lit section of road. He was going the wrong way against the traffic flow, w/out lights and wearing dark clothing and no helmet. Police estimate he was doing 30+ when he smacked into the bicyclist. The guy on the bicycle was in the bike lane, riding with traffic and had a light.

    I have a friend on the force and he told me this evening his chief wants to make the fact that it was a motorized bike a big deal, as the story says:
    "Police are investigating all factors that contributed to the crash."

    I wish people would use their head for something other than to wrap bandages on.

    story and vid:

  2. Mountainman

    Mountainman Active Member

    so the motorized bicycle was going the wrong way
    man -- this is a terrible thing that happened -- for the MB cause...
    hoping that all involved will pull through ok
  3. machiasmort

    machiasmort Active Member

    I certainly hope all parties make it through ok... But, Man, How flippin stupid could you be than to go faster than what you could see ahead of you?
  4. customcruiser

    customcruiser Member

    does a motorised skate board count as a motorised bike?

    i wear a helmet on anything motorised both for the safety but more so the cops dont hassle me ive been pulled over on my 66cc 3 times now heres wat happened

    riding an unregistered vehicle i had no lights and i keep under 25 at night unless im on a big long strait road with no traffic i can see i got pulled over i had no lights all 3 times they just didnt like the motor even tho i had pedals i said i had lights sir but one fell off and the rears blown up i had helmet on but ive only ever been hassled once on my motorised skateboard today i rode past 4 coppas
  5. arceeguy

    arceeguy Active Member

    Bikes are supposed to follow all traffic rules. I've had a few close calls with bicyclists (not roadies) riding against traffic or ignoring traffic signals/signs. It doesn't matter whether there is an engine on it. You can argue that the sound of the engine will atract more attention.

    At least the guy on the regular bike only sustained minor injuries. Too many times, the guys that are responsible for the accident walk away with no injuries and the innocent bystander gets injured or killed.
  6. customcruiser

    customcruiser Member

    yes.....i never ride into on coming traffic under no circumstance i wont jaywalk or anything i use crossings etc if i do have to ride on foot paths due to cars in bike lanes r no bike lanes then i keep under 20kmh and if i obey all rules then if someone else ****s up im not in the **** the other persons at fault and they get hit with the fine insurance etc etc etc and if i get a leg broken or something due to there error then i get compensation for it
  7. bluegoatwoods

    bluegoatwoods Well-Known Member

    For crying out loud........

    I won't go quite so far as to wish that this guy is never able to ride any kind of bike again. But if it happens, he asked for it.

    He did everything just as wrong as can be. But the police chief is focused on the motor.

    There's more than one idiot involved in this. The second one is liable to make things hard for our MB brothers in Springfield MA. Such a shame.
  8. Mountainman

    Mountainman Active Member

    safe manner -- the THING

    no a motorized shate board (in all places that I had heard about)
    is not as a motorized bicycle
    the board with wheels THINGS seem to be pretty darn legal though in most places
    here they require no drivers license of any type
    must be 16 years of age
    requiring a head helmet to be worn..

    hoping that all out there today will ride in a safe manner -- the THING
  9. augidog

    augidog New Member

    i hope they also factor in that the mb-rider was a complete idiot.

    i feel for other riders in the area, bad times ahead for them i fear.

    and i surely hope the bicyclist is ok...seems he was doing his part to stay safe.
  10. machiasmort

    machiasmort Active Member

    It all goes back to what I've been sayin on this board from the get go.

    X can only have 1 beer and drive... Now nobody else could have more than 1. We should all chip in and send him a pic me up boquete (with poison ivy) to his Hospitol bed!
  11. augidog

    augidog New Member


    self-regulation is far better than forced-regulation.
  12. arceeguy

    arceeguy Active Member

    Are you saying the Springfield police are acting "stupidly"? ;)

    If so, I agree 100% in this case.

    If the accident involved two non motorized bikes, do you think it would have been on the news? Would the police chief then advocate the banning of pedal bicycles?

    Let's face it - motorized bikes are an easy target for politicians and law enforcement. They'll get up on their soap boxes, denounce the evil machines and create laws to ban them.
  13. bluegoatwoods

    bluegoatwoods Well-Known Member

    Yes. If I wasn't clear, I'm calling the police chief an idiot based on Happy Valley's statement that he intends to make a big deal out of the motor.

    Or maybe he's no idiot at all and he's indulging in scape-goating.

    But maybe I'm jumping to conclusions too fast; maybe that was just a "heat of the moment" type of comment. He's probably just as mad at that jerk as everyone else. When he thinks about it, maybe he'll calm down and start thinking of enforcing laws dealing with lighting, wrong way riding, etc.

    So let me withdraw my name calling (my apologies, Chief) for now. Let's see how he actually does handle this.
  14. Happy Valley

    Happy Valley Active Member

    There is an order to stupidity and in this case it started with the guy on the MB. I can't divine the chief's motives. This story made the news because there was a traffic accident and it involved bicycles and an automobile, the one that hit the biker.

    If I've not been clear, contained in posting this story is a plea for motorized bicycle enthusiasts to ride safe and responsibly.
  15. azbill

    azbill Active Member

    I hope this one tool doesn't ruin it for others :(:(:(
  16. customcruiser

    customcruiser Member

    get this on thursday i was riding my motorised bike along the torrens river bike path at about 1 30 pm and saw ambulances there were 2 they waved me down to go around i slowed right down looked back and one guy was lying in a big white plastic body bag and they were loading another guy into the wagon looked some more and two cyclists had apparently had a head on the bikes were crunched together by the front wheels and were traveling in the same lane (its a double lane the same as an incoming outcoming road)
  17. arceeguy

    arceeguy Active Member

    Got a link to the news story? What town do you live in? A head-on bicycle fatality should make the news.