Bad News in Santa Fe NM, "ATV turf war includes nails&q

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  1. bamabikeguy

    bamabikeguy Active Member

    Southside: Arroyo nails plague riders

    (there was a picture here of a guy staring at his bicycle flat)

    Larry Vargas is shown repairing a flat tire that his son received when biking through an arroyo in Tierra Contenta in Santa Fe, NM. The family believes that the flat tires were cause by someone dumping an box of nails in the arroyo to discourage the use of ATV's. (Ramsay de Give/The New Mexican)

    By Tom Sharpe | The New Mexican
    July 18, 2007

    Cyclists say they're become victims in an apparent bid to discourage ATV use

    Somebody has been dumping roofing nails into an arroyo near Tierra Contenta, apparently to discourage all-terrain vehicles and other off-road vehicles.

    But the main victims so far have been bicycle tires.

    Larry Vargas, his wife Paivi Panttila and their two children, Joel, 10, and Josephine, 8, found out about the nails when they ended up with flats on their bicycles this week.

    "My kids were just really irritated that somebody would do something like that," Vargas said. "There were at least three boxes of them spread around in various places."

    The roofing nails have large square heads that cause the pointed ends to stand upright when tires roll over them.

    Vargas said the person who spread the nails in the southwest-side arroyo probably was trying to puncture the tires of ATVs or motorcycles that have plagued open space around Santa Fe for years. Besides puncturing bike tires, the nails could also injure pedestrians, dogs and other animals.

    "There was another guy I saw riding a horse, and the horse reared up, but I don't know if the horse had stepped on something or not," Vargas said.

    Santa Fe Police Capt. Gary Johnson said he doesn't recall hearing about anyone putting out roofing nails before. But Councilor Carmichael Dominguez recalled other police talking about the tactic during a recent neighborhood meeting.

    Dominguez, who represents the far southwest end of Santa Fe, is sponsoring an ordinance that would prohibit the use of off-road vehicles within the city limits, except in a "designated off-highway motor vehicle course, track or trail."

    A companion resolution would direct city staff to look for areas to designate as off-highway vehicle trails, such as the U.S. Bureau of Land Management acreage adjacent to the Municipal Recreation Complex, west of N.M. 599.

    Dominguez said he expects the ordinance and resolution to be heard at the City Council meeting Wednesday.

    City ordinance already bans motorized vehicles on city open space, parks and trails, with fines beginning at $51. Earlier this year, city crews put up five road signs between Airport Road and Interstate 25, warning that riding on trails, parks and open space is illegal.

    State law also bans the use of ATVs near private dwellings.

    City police recently bought several ATVs so they could chase down errant ATV drivers in Tierra Contenta, along the Arroyo Chamiso Trail in south-central Santa Fe and in other parts of town. Dominguez said some of police ATVs had their tires punctured by the roofing nails.

    "The complaints (about ATVs) have decreased," he said. "There's been some enforcement and some measures that have helped alleviate that. Part of it, I think, is that residents realize that there's only so much that can be done right now."

    But as for spreading out roofing nails, "We encourage residents not to do tha" Dominguez said. "It puts the people's safety at stake, especially the police."
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  2. SlicerDicer

    SlicerDicer Guest

    Ahh yes the ATV's... They do the same crap behind my house. They nonstop all day everyday drive around making all kinds of racket... There is a nice park for them just down the road it boggles my mind why they wont go there :/

    Annoying I tell ya.

    But then again I do not complain because I do not want people complaining about my bike :)

    Not to mention Santa Fe is by far more uptight than Rio Rancho sadly :/
  3. This is an international problem.

    We have a regular article in our local newspaper about motorbikes in our local parks but the crew here ride two wheel thumpster style 110cc and 125cc bikes.

    The police here have also purchased similar bikes to catch offenders breaking the law regarding riding these motor bikes in our parks.

    The problem is that crew do not have anywhere to ride these bike around here so they are now considering opening a park just for people to ride motorbikes without having to be in a club.

    I fully support this type of local council funded park and hope it happens soon. The motorcross clubs around here seem to be very 'clicky' so you need the very latest bikes and gear and that would put the weekenders off.

    All this makes motored bicycles more attrictive as you avoid all this crap and just ride :grin:

    I am typing this while watching a song on the tv by Madonna - music makes the people come together....I am thing MBc makes the people come together!
  4. srdavo

    srdavo Active Member

    I hear ya, my brother, from down-under 8)
  5. SlicerDicer

    SlicerDicer Guest

    Well you know another problem people have is that these ATV's or Dirtbikes have no silencers on them they think its "COOL" to rev them up and down up and down making the gawd awful racket they do all day. If they put a silencer on there I doubt people would be half mad at them and they could play in silence. Instead they like to be a nuisance thats the problem in my book.
  6. bamabikeguy

    bamabikeguy Active Member

    Santa Fe really looks bike pro-active

    From: (lots of comments after the article)

    Bicyclists persuade panel to spread sharrows

    I'd paint those things on pavement at $300 per, thats for sure !!!

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  7. Cowled_Wolfe

    Cowled_Wolfe Guest

    Like anything else the government contracts out, the low bid is still ridiculously high.

    Personally, I think that sharrows, special markings, and bike lanes are all a waste. Instead, why not widen shoulders? That way, cyclists, joggers, and cagers alike can all see the benefit of their tax dollars hard at (overpriced) work.