Birddog Says Hello From MT

Discussion in 'Introduce Yourself' started by birddog, Oct 19, 2007.

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  1. birddog

    birddog Guest


    Greetings from Big Sky Country. Where the men are men and the sheep run...errr...the bikes run good. :lol:

    I'm very impressed with this thriving forum. It is truly no small feat to get an informative, organized, successful forum up and running. Nice job guys.

    As the founder of (motorized bicycle products which were formerly found on I am thrilled to become part of the community.

    My time is scarce these days, but I hope to learn a lot and maybe even lend an occassional hand or two.

    Our new site features the Grubee SkyHawk Stage II Whopper Stopper Kits as well as parts for the now taboo StarFire/SkyHawk 2 stroke kits. We decided to continue to stock parts for these to support our customers.

    I'm looking forward to reading input and getting to know the forum.

  2. gone_fishin

    gone_fishin Guest

    i consider that to be an entirely appropriate supplier's 1st post, a nice intro :)

    in the future you may include a link in your signature, but we don't allow sellers to post their own links or actively promote their products. i'm sure you understand social interaction at MBc is a more effective sales-tool than active selling. so, if you're here to nurture a healthy consumer/supplier relationship, i think you'll find some great people to work with at MBc...all we ask as buyers is upfront & accurate information and a fair shake.

    welcome to MBc :cool:
  3. azbill

    azbill Active Member

    welcome to MBc ! :D
    I hope to be calling you soon :)
  4. iRide Customs

    iRide Customs Member

    Welcome to the group!
  5. alesterfeind

    alesterfeind Guest

    Welcome! I have used a few times now, and they have been quick to deliver (within 5 days) and have given me great customer service when I have had questions. Josh has been particularly patient and helpful. Thanks Birddog!
  6. Alaskavan

    Alaskavan Guest

    Welcome to MBc. I also have purchased parts from and was impressed with the speed of delivery.
  7. gone_fishin

    gone_fishin Guest

    i deleted your 3rd post where you posted your hours and phone number :(

    good vendor, good parts...i'm baffled...

    i wish i could figure out why the grube folks have to be so doggoned aggressive in their self-promotion...that just isn't cool, imo. don may be used to pushing around the competition, but he can't shove the consumer around, especially thru a 3rd party.
  8. gone_fishin

    gone_fishin Guest

    birddog, after some consideration, i've re-opened your account...PLEASE try to explain to us why the grube guys are so pushy...don can't possibly believe it's the way to our hearts.

    try to explain yourself thru postive self-presentation instead of cutting the competition...sincerely, i want to know why things are as they are. i mean, i understand some of it, about the factory contracts and all, but why are you all so determined to alienate your potential customers?
  9. birddog

    birddog Guest


    I'm a little bit taken aback here. The comments that you are making about me are not true and I resent the accusations. I am an honest, legitimate business owner and I'm not trying to step on any toes here. I may be a little green to how MBc likes to run the forum, but this is a little ridiculous.

    The first thing I want to address is that "I'M NOT DON'S GUY" or part of the "GRUBE FOLK". Let's just get that straight right off the bat. Don runs a company from which I purchase products. That is the extent of our relationship. I don't work for Don and I don't take orders from him. I'm the boss and anything I do or say is my sole responsibility.

    My 2nd post is stating the facts. I'm sorry if you don't like Grubee, or the general consensus of the forum bears him some ill will. However, those are the facts. When you stop hearing the facts and start blanketing your domain with prejudice against one person, you have not only hurt the forum community, but you're also hurting yourself. The fact is, Grubee exports bicycle engine kits. People are going to talk about those products-people were asking about those products. That's why I don't understand this negative response. Forum members were asking questions and I provided an answer. Should the only posts I make be about things pertaining to Golden Eagle?

    Whatever the problems are here with Grubee, they are not my problems. I should not be guilty by association. Yes, I get my kits from Don, but Grubee Inc. and China Gas are not my businesses and my policies and methods of doing business are my own.

    My third post was merely in response to a reply that I received where azkronic mentioned calling me. I thought it was kosher to acknowledge him. I guess I didn't realize how much I need to tip toe around.

    Just to be clear augidog, I am not out to negatively campaign against the competition. I'm giving factual answers in response to questions that people were asking. Why is kit A cheaper than kit B. Well, this is why-facts. I don't know how else to present it.

    For someone who wants people to have a fair shake you sure are quick to judge me after 3 posts. I just hope that our products and service speaks (through the forum community) louder than your unfounded resentment. It's not fair for me to be under your brand partial spotlight simply for associating with someone you don't like.

    I hope this response doesn't come off as harsh, but you were pretty harsh in your posts. I honestly hope that we can work together here.
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  10. gone_fishin

    gone_fishin Guest

    thanks birddog, now we can talk.

    your first 3 posts were barely within seller-guidelines, very enthusiastic about getting the contact info out there. did you happen to notice that we encouraged consumer-posting of your site? how would that be considered prejudiced on my part? we want an honest and reliable source for grube products, and it sure seems you are it.

    instead of following past "grube-strategies", try NOT worrying about the competition and start answering techie questions about your products. help your customers instead of aggressively pursuing new ones, we will all be more comfortable that way.

    btw- bill didn't ask for your phone number, he knows where to find it because we generously allow and even encourage our members to freely post info about sellers and products that work.

    i have no problem continuing this dialogue, at least you're not cussin' or trying to manipulate me as others have done, which is sadly why i am so cynical...
  11. birddog

    birddog Guest

    I honestly wasn't trying to push the limits, especially with my reply about the JL Hoot. Members had questions that I answered. Certainly you'll concede that.

    Anyway, water under the bridge...pavement under the tires.
  12. gone_fishin

    gone_fishin Guest

    pavement under the tires, yes...however, i don't concede that we accept sellers discussing other sellers products, it brings up the question of motivation & therefore it's been policy from day one.

    all good, thanks for the attention, as i said in the other topic i can see you care enough to want to work it out. i think we just have :)
  13. azbill

    azbill Active Member

    I do have your number
    and am already registered on your site
    and I am personally (speaking as a member/consumer), glad you are here
    we have had (speaking as a moderator here) some bad sellers/Don Grube, just talking bad about others..which is not what this forum is about
    I hope this works out well for all involved (speaking as both consumer and moderator)
  14. birddog

    birddog Guest

    Thanks Bill. I didn't realize I was bending any rules. I'm just trying to find my groove here.

    I agree that Don can sometimes than professional. However, he has treated me with the respect that I deserve so far and I have no quarrel with him. In fact, hopefully I can work to bridge the gap that seems to exist between this forum and his company. I just hope everyone recognizes that I buy kits from him and not ethics, procedures, or strategies. I didn't really know what I was walking into, I hope we can work through it all for a mutual benefit.

    I hope to participate as much as my time will allow. :smile:
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  15. dbigkahunna

    dbigkahunna Guest

    I will continue on Welcome to MBc form the Giant Side of Texas! Are you a OFG?
  16. turbo/chaos

    turbo/chaos Guest

    hey ther bird dog just found josh from michegan where your main supplier is from dang the engines are at a good price

    im turbo chaos or TC for short have fun here its great man and lots of help but thats that man later
  17. drimpact

    drimpact Member

    Welcome to MBc. It is nice to see honest & respectful sellers.
  18. birddog

    birddog Guest

    dbigkahunna, what is OFG?
  19. birddog

    birddog Guest

    Hey TC...I am Josh, but from Montana not Michigan. We spoke on the phone the other day. I remember you because you told me too look for turbo/chaos in the forums. How goes it?
  20. ChrisHill

    ChrisHill Guest

    Welcome to MBc.