Built for comfort, speed, and distance

Discussion in 'Photos & Bicycle Builds' started by flailer, Dec 31, 2008.

  1. flailer

    flailer New Member

    This bike was bought specifically to be motorized.

    . It was decided that a Recumbent would be best. BUT in spite of it's high level of comfort, they have a few too many shortcomings (like motor right behind head; loss of speed / momentum on corners; heaviest of weights on small motors = early rebuilds and slow slow slow acceleration).

    . It was also decided that standard street & city bikes are designed too upright for long periods of riding time. They are designed like this specifically because they have to be completely pedal-worthy. Hey, don't get me wrong, if you're pedaling they are a great way to go.

    . Lastly it was decided that dual suspension mtn bikes, while they do add comfort, they are primarily more comfortable over your city bike ONLY during bumps and the like. And one is still stuck sitting in a "pedal-worthy" riding position with too much weight on hands and wrists. Basically the extra money suspension costs could be spend on a better designed frame.

    So, enter the Electra Townie. Can you see how comfortable this bike is to sit on, and ride all over town just for the fun of it? It has over 700 motorized miles on it so far, and will continue to get used throughout the winter months.

    We have more pics, and a video clip too.

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  2. graucho

    graucho Active Member

    yes that Electra Townie looks like a bike with good riding posture. If I can ask flailer how tall are you? just asking to give everyone a "scale for fit" to compare from the photo with you sitting on it. Ride on.....flailer
  3. bluegoatwoods

    bluegoatwoods Well-Known Member

    Yup, that does look like a comfortable ride. That crank must be a half a foot ahead of the seat tube. And that looks like a very good idea.
  4. flailer

    flailer New Member

    About 6 ft tall.

    Note how tall the handle bars are. And how the bike is designed around one's legs being out in front of you, rather than under the saddle. (Edit: oh, i only just saw BlueGoatWoods post)

    Note too that the bike has a VERY wide gear ratio. First gear is very low, prolly yielding less than 24" of travel. Pedal assist, regardless of speed, is very do-able.

    The bike is not so much classic or retro, but it does have flare, in my opinon. It has a major coolness factor. The local kids all like to check it out.....
    .... If a 50 year old wasnt sitting on it, it would be a chick magnet. lol :cool:
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  5. alex

    alex Guest

  6. Mountainman

    Mountainman Active Member

    nice bike
    I had been looking at some of those Electra's -- I like those
    I had wondered about the motor rack -- where it connects to frame -- near seat
    any chance you can post a close up of that connection point ?

    have fun as you ride that cool MB THING
  7. beachcruiser

    beachcruiser Member

    That is a nice looking bike. The Armstrong CA 520 looks
    very similar to this bike.
  8. flailer

    flailer New Member

    Thanks Alex !

    i'd like to take a closer look at the first seat.

    Have you tried it? Has anyone here tried it?

    It is a sensitive topic to be sure, but i have suffered penile numbness (cough cough) in the past, and your first link seems like it offers a solution - but not having tried it i am unsure.

    Talk to me!
  9. flailer

    flailer New Member

    Yes, MountainMan, i can.

    i just looked through the pics i have and they are not good enough / close enough for what your asking.

    It is a great question as the standard mounting rack, as supplied by vendor, has been modified. Why; because the bike frame is diff enough from standard to make doing so worth it.

    Don't get me wrong, my brother and i mounted up the kit as supplied and put many-a-mile on the rig as supplied by the vendor - but a small mod was done in order to level the rack, so that in the near future we could start carrying loads on the rack (even if it is only the once a month gas run w a gallon gas can on board)(once a month; read 128 miles per gallon - hahaaaa)

    Cheers to all,
  10. smitty

    smitty Guest

    With a 26" (diameter) wheel, 24" of travel is less than 1/3 of a revolution of the rear wheel. That means that you would have to turn the crank more than three times to travel less than seven feet.

    Usually bicycle gearing is referred to in "inch gears". (By those in the know.) Inch gears relates back to high wheeled bikes, and is calculated by dividing the number of teeth on the chainwheel by the number of teeth on the rear cog, then multiplying by the diameter of the wheel. Then, with one revolution of the crank, the wheel will travel the distance of a wheel of the calculated diameter.( Times Pi = the circumference)

    With one revolution of the crank equaling one revolution of the wheel, and traveling 24"
    The wheel would have to be around 7-1/2" in diameter.

    BTW I dig the bike.
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  11. wheelbender6

    wheelbender6 Well-Known Member

    The Townie has been copied by most major bike manufacturers now (in some form). Electra created that market segment with the Townie. Excellent choice!
  12. alex

    alex Guest

    I have tried a seat very close to this one, it's like sitting on a small chair and there was no where near the amount of (crowding) in the crotch area as there was on a regular seat.
  13. flailer

    flailer New Member

    Agreed. Or the gearing can be related directly to inches traveled.... which is what i thought peoples were doing now a'days. Perhaps you and i are talking about the same thing though, too. Freak'n.... i dont know.

    Anyway, i didnt calculate it out, but the front is 28 teeth, and the rear 34 - which is "reduction gearing" so i know it travels less that the 26" of the wheel diameter.

    Oh well, now i wanna know what it is .... 28/34*26= 21.4
    .. 21.4 inches of forward travel per pedal revolution.

    Ah ha!! Thanks Smitty!!

    pics to follow.
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  14. Mountainman

    Mountainman Active Member

    yes -- thank you

    hi flailer -- yes -- thank you -- that's why I was asking

    I had looked at those bicycles a few times -- I like those THINGS

    but -- the mounting point held me back a little

    for sure -- they are a cool looking bike

    ride that THING
  15. flailer

    flailer New Member

    Pics of how a Staton direct drive was mounted on a Electra Townie ~

    No big deal, at all, as the way the kit came worked just fine.
    But in order to level out the mounting plate (channel iron) so it could be used as a rear rack, a simple extention was added: Two peices of flat steel bar (sorry, i dont know what else to call 'em) approx 4 inches long were used to kick the whole rig back about 3 inches.

    Check it out. the pics are self explanatory ~

    1st pic: You can see the side view, and how a 4" piece was added to the standard mounting (added to U shape piece, that mounts to the bike's seat-stays)
    Also note how my Brother painted the Robin's yellow engine cover black
    (i am thinking that he saw someone else on this forum do that, and he liked it - THANKS)

    2nd pic: with tape measure showing that approx 2 7/8 inches added to lenght.

    3rd pic, just for giggles, showing how far forward (of the seat) the bottom bracket is. The black mark on the tape is a foot, so the seat is just over a foot behind the pedals

    Peace, and good will unto all (wo)men

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  16. flailer

    flailer New Member

    Alex: You tried it, but dont use it on a regular basis?
  17. duivendyk

    duivendyk Guest

    Alas the calculation is not correct, you should have multiplied the result by Pi (3.14) and would get: 28/34* 3.14* 26=67" per crank revolution, or a bit less than 7'.
  18. flailer

    flailer New Member

    You really made me question my calculations - so i when out to the garage and started to do a direct measurement the inches of travel with one pedal revolution, and ...... noted that, of course, that my Brother has the bike as his place. Duh. :shout:

    Anyway, a direct measurement on the garage floor should support the fact that the gearing is a simple ratio of one to the other. And that travel is a direct function of the wheel size. But as my brother has the bike i cannot measure the accuracy of my numbers.....

    BUT NEVER MIND THAT.... why do it the true and simple way when you can refer to Sheldon Brown!!!

    There are many diff ways to report gearing - check out what Sheldon Brown has to say on the topic. And note that this guy's work is impeccable
    (look at gears and drivetrain)

    Cause i don't have the bike here I ran the gearing in Sheldon's calculator and came up with 21.4. But, that is NOT to say that I am right, as I note that Sheldon is talking about Gear inches. But I think that is the same thing, maybe. Maybe.

    But who am i?
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  19. alex

    alex Guest

    I only rode it for about 30 minutes, it was on a friend's bike. And it was pretty comfy, but it takes a little while to get used to.
  20. smitty

    smitty Guest

    Inch gears refer to the calculated DIAMETER of the wheel. The distance traveled is the CIRCUMFERENCE of the wheel. So if you want the distance traveled you need to multiply the diameter by Pi (Pi = 3.14159265...). 21.4 x 3.1416 =67.23024". A bit more than 5-1/2'.
    Still a VERY low gear.