Curiosity is my current demon

[Flash1987]

Ok so I've been pondering this for awhile now so here goes hypothetically speaking of I wanted to basically from the ground up do my own cg kit from all available motors and parts out there and I do mean any source of part usable in a build what parts would I want to build a nice fast reliable engine

 

[Wrench]

hypothetically speaking

Why don't you put together a parts list of what you think you need to build a fast reliable engine
Maybe then members can help you

 

[darwin]

Another best oil ?. 1000 opinions and no one answer is wrong. If you're buying a kit all the parts will come with that kit. If you piece together a kit from individual parts, it gets expensive. Some kits/motors are better than others in quality. Make sure what you're buying will fit on the bike you have.

 

[DAMIEN1307]

Another best oil ?. 1000 opinions and no one answer is wrong. If you're buying a kit all the parts will come with that kit. If you piece together a kit from individual parts, it gets expensive. Some kits/motors are better than others in quality. Make sure what you're buying will fit on the bike you have.

Also the parts from one supplier may not fit other parts coming from other suppliers properly, we have seen that many times before as well.

 

[Gordy]

If you wanna do it that way just do a saw build

 

[Sloppyslopster]

Ok so I've been pondering this for awhile now so here goes hypothetically speaking of I wanted to basically from the ground up do my own cg kit from all available motors and parts out there and I do mean any source of part usable in a build what parts would I want to build a nice fast reliable engine

If you want something fast and reliable try a yd85. It's basically an avenger 85. Also the lazy mans saw hybrid. The saw hybrid clones have a good powerband, are easy to modify, and have quiet a catalog of parts. You could do what Gordy said and do a saw hybrid. I just finished my first one up and it's a blast! But it takes a lot of time to make, requires a drill press (sort of), its REALLY easy to screw up, and needs a lot of supporting mods to make reliable.

I've been looking into easier saw conversions and for a while I've been wanting to try the ms380 cylinder with m8 to m5 thread reducers on a yd100. The ms380 has the same bolt pattern as the yd100 being 50x50 but they don't share the same bolt size hence the thread reducers. Plus you'd have to still take the thing apart and balance the crank and upgrade your clutch spring.

Or yah know, minarelli's are starting to get cheaper now and pipes are starting to become more available.

 

[ImpulseRocket]

If you want something fast and reliable try a yd85. It's basically an avenger 85. Also the lazy mans saw hybrid. The saw hybrid clones have a good powerband, are easy to modify, and have quiet a catalog of parts. You could do what Gordy said and do a saw hybrid. I just finished my first one up and it's a blast! But it takes a lot of time to make, requires a drill press (sort of), its REALLY easy to screw up, and needs a lot of supporting mods to make reliable.

I've been looking into easier saw conversions and for a while I've been wanting to try the ms380 cylinder with m8 to m5 thread reducers on a yd100. The ms380 has the same bolt pattern as the yd100 being 50x50 but they don't share the same bolt size hence the thread reducers. Plus you'd have to still take the thing apart and balance the crank and upgrade your clutch spring.

Or yah know, minarelli's are starting to get cheaper now and pipes are starting to become more available.

The Avenger has a pretty poor reputation for reliability.

Other pre-made saw Hybrids: Phantom 85 and the BT80 and BT100 engines.

All of them have pros and cons.

 

[DAMIEN1307]

The Avenger has a pretty poor reputation for reliability.

Other pre-made saw Hybrids: Phantom 85 and the BT80 and BT100 engines.

All of them have pros and cons.

I can tell ya @ImpulseRocket that the V-3 did not run as hot during breakin as the V-2 for some reason unbeknownst to me...I have no idea why this was so since this has been one the longest, hottest summers on record in Alamogordo.

It also seems even more well mannered if you can believe that...I ordered another V-3 cylinder kit w/ piston, rings, wrist pin and needle bearing and turned my V-2 into a V-3 like I said I would do if I was liking it.

I am breaking that one in right now and have 28 miles on it already...The one thing they now both have in common is rather than having the needle valve groove in the middle position as the V-2 was, runnng pig rich even at my 4500 foot elevation, they now both run their best with the usual little bit of 4 stroking when not under load at my full lean position at the top of the needle which is the position I was used to using at my altitude with the Zeda 80 and Seeutec motors.

I have zero idea why this is now different on the V-3 versus the V-2 but they both run fantastically.

I also noticed that after the first three heat cycles that I only had to adjust the top nuts only 4 times on one and three times on the other, not requiring any additional torque down...I can't explain the reason for that either but definitely call that a plus...Even the exhaust that is made for it has much better welding then the previous exhausts, we shall see what time tells us on that...lol.

 

[Gordy]

The Avenger has a pretty poor reputation for reliability.

Other pre-made saw Hybrids: Phantom 85 and the BT80 and BT100 engines.

All of them have pros and cons.

I haven't heard great things about the BT100, but the BT80 is a great engine. I wouldn't recommend the electric start engine if you want to modify it, but the regular version would be a beast if someone was willing to put the effort into it.

 

[Gordy]

Hmm, it seems as though bike berry doesn't sell the regular BT80 anymore.