Do you think a regular bike shop could put this kit on a bike for me.

Discussion in 'General Questions' started by Abc111, Sep 3, 2008.

  1. Abc111

    Abc111 New Member

    Hi, i'm one of the few people here that are truly mechanichally challenged.If i give any local bike shop a complete kit and bicycle, will they be able to put it on?If not, who could put it on.Finally, approximately how much do you think a shop would charge to do this?

  2. arceeguy

    arceeguy Active Member

    Most bike shops would spit on an engine kit because it is counter to their belief that a bicycle should be 100% human powered. Although you might find a shop to do it, I wouldn't hold my breath. You'd have better luck at a motorcycle/ATV shop.
  3. Happy Valley

    Happy Valley Active Member

    Could they? Most complete bicycle shops probably could without a doubt, mechanically speaking. They might not be exactly familiar with the mounting but they could figure it out.

    Would they, is another question. I've encountered resistance from LBSs toward MABs, particularly gasoline motors. Some do embrace electric drives.
    You'd have to ask. They might cite some liability issues or some such thing.

    If it were me seeking a shop as you are, I'd look for a motorcycle repair shop to do the work or a backyard mechanic.

    Costs? Hmmmm, what ever you agree to. It's hard to say depending on what kind of bike and motor you have and the degree of difficulty on the install. One disadvantage of taking it to someone who hasn't done it before is they'll take more time figuring it out.

    All that said generally speaking I probably wouldn't pay more than $60...thinking 3hr x $20hr. I could also see some asking a hundred.
  4. hill climber

    hill climber Member

    i do them in my nieborhood for $75 and thats ok by them
  5. arceeguy

    arceeguy Active Member

    The powersports shop by me charges $85/hr for labor. No doubt that MB's are for the DIY kind of guy. Even if you don't install it, it will require some degree of mechanical ability to keep it going reliably. For someone that is not mechanically minded, a commercially built scooter (Lifan, Kymco, Genuine, Vespa) would be trouble free and have dealer support.
  6. Happy Valley

    Happy Valley Active Member

    Good work if he can get it, but he wouldn't get my business.

    Guess it's a small price to pay for living in the "Garden State".
  7. Abc111

    Abc111 New Member

    How hard is it to install providing i have absolutely no experience putting together or working on engines/cars.I also only have hand tools.Oh, and i'm just looking for a motorized bicycle as a "joy rider" around my cul de sac.
  8. Happy Valley

    Happy Valley Active Member

    There you go, you're getting hooked. :cool:

    Everything you need to know is already written here, you just have to read.

    Then ask questions.

    Hand tools will be all you'll need.

    Go ahead, you know you want to......:lol:
  9. SirJakesus

    SirJakesus Guest

    Friction drive systems are by far the easiest to install. Frame mounted chain driven engines are probably the most difficult to install and maintain. They seem to have the most reliability problems too.
    I just installed a friction drive on whats usually my peddler. The whole job took me about 2 hours. Including replacing the tubes and tires to with something more friction drive compliant. I didn't have to modify ANYTHING on the bike which is a change for me. She rides like a dream too, tons of power and light weight.
  10. Mountainman

    Mountainman Active Member

    Yes - if desired - most bicycle shops can easily build up a MB. There's a bicycle shop down the hill from me - that now carries MB engines - either on or off the bike.
    Here's the question - if this was an auto repair shop - what if - when taking my car in for a tune up - I brought my own plugs with me. Not a good thing to do..

    As a former owner of a bicycle shop - it needs to be known - there is also a liability issue here - in case of injury due to faulty setup.

    A fair mechanic - small shop owner - maybe can set you up.

    Ride That Thing - Mountainman
  11. Just do it! You'll be surprised at yourself. Everything is hard the first time you do it, but once you get it together, you'll derive a great deal of satisfaction and sence of accomplishment. There's a wealth of knowledge here and these guys (and gals) are more than happy to impart their valuable knowledge to us noobs. I just rolled out my brand new project from the garage today. I'm beaming!!!:grin: Ain't got 'er started yet, and I'm sure I'll have some other things go wrong, but with the help of all on this forum, I have no doubt that I can do this. YOU CAN TOO! As someone else has already stated, you'll need to fiddle with this thing quite frequently, and there's no better way to get familiar with all the parts of the beast, than to build it yourself. One step at a time. Today, mount the engine. Stand back and admire your great work. Drink beer. Feel the manliness well up inside. Grunt, belch, drink another beer, and bang your tools on the floor! Call a buddy over and grunt somemore. This can be done. Bike shops will poo-poo your machine. Liability issues. Never underestimate the capabilities of drunken, crazed men with basic hand tools, a cheap Chinese motor, vague instructions, and a mission!

  12. BoltsMissing

    BoltsMissing Active Member

    I have asked bicycle shops here locally, most have stipulated the after sales "riot act", they cannot be held responsible in accordance with their own biz policies etc etc on saftey matters.
    In other words, they simply want to sell human powerd bikes, they sell and service enough of them, they have no real need to fit engines.
    However, some bike shops have electric powered bikes, but strictly governed in accordance with legalities, which is fair enough, each to their oiwn.

    Some shops I found do like the idea of motored bicycles, but simply don't want to "go there", it's not in their overall business plan.

    The DIY option is your better bet,or a ready made DIY done by some of us.

    Start by hanging the bike so it's eye level when you comnfotably sit on a chair, stare at it and sort it out bit by bit, take picstures, post here, there is plentyt of help each step of the way.

    Just by figuring out your own space, and making a "tool" to steady the bike is a good start, it gets the ball rolling.
    Below is a picture of my very first build, all I had was basic tools, old tools so the quality was there.

    The stand is actually one of those chiropractic spine inverters. I used the frame to hang the bike, just an idea how some of us started, others have their own methods, mine was simply at a time I needed wheels there and then.
    If you are not desperate for wheels, then take your tiime and buy quality tools to last, ask if not sure.

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  13. Esteban

    Esteban Active Member

    You, anyone for that matter, should be able to install a friction drive kit. Instructions with the kits are good & only a few tools are needed. Watch the 2 videos here to see what is involved.
  14. s_beaudry

    s_beaudry Member

    Keep in mind too that even after a frame mounted chain drive is installed, there are still mechanical challenges almost everytime you ride it....

    I have already readjusted my chain 5 or 6 times to keep the bike going before each new ride!
  15. Mountainman

    Mountainman Active Member

    OVERALL - in the long run - as stated many times above

    best to install - build up - yourself..

    You will learn a lot of things that may come in handy while riding --
    you will know how to make simple and maybe not so simple adjustments to MB..

    In regards to paying someone to build -- these days it's getting harder and harder to find quality work done at a fair price...

    Build That Thing - Mountainman
  16. mlcorson

    mlcorson Member

    Forget it, you need a commitment to learn before you get the pleasure of riding. Without that commitment, you could be a victim of a (possibly) poor and unsafe install, and put your safety at risk by not understanding what is required of a well maintained and safe MB. All self inflicted. Had you said, "I am mechanically challenged, but I am willing to learn" ....Different conversation.
  17. Mountainman

    Mountainman Active Member

    Just a slight problem with your statement Mike -

    not sure that anyone on this site has the right to tell someone that "they need a commitment to learn before getting the pleasure of the ride."

    I do understand where you are coming from -- SAFTY ALWAYS FIRST

    I admit - that is something that I could say to my son
    but - to ones I don't know --- maybe not..

    Happy Riding from - Mountainman
  18. BoltsMissing

    BoltsMissing Active Member

    Well I dunno, how many times do i have to post this, the chain issue has been solved, credit to Fetor who showed me.
    Get 2 boxes of chains as shown on the pic, and a chain tool.
    Add 1 or 2 extra links from the 2nd box, keep that as a spare, ploblem solved.
    No endless stretching of chain.

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  19. mlcorson

    mlcorson Member

    You're right Mountainman..but I didn't mean to sound so harsh. Maybe I should have suggested he generate a commitment to learning. That might result in a safer, more informed user. Everyone wants plug and play. In this case, not understanding the machine you're operating, IMO seems like a vulnerability. Maybe I misread his post, I just didn't sense any commitment, and I still could have been more diplomatic.
  20. astring

    astring Member

    Do not go to a "spandex" type of shop, try a gear head mountain bike type of shop. Mountain bike shops seem way more MB friendly. If you buy a couple of tires and tubes, a light and speedo (stuff you need anyway) from them they may do it for free (if they are not busy).

    This is for a friction drive (because it is such an easy job).