I want to start this thread by saying Merry 4th of July. It was a balmy 66 degrees up here in the North East. Ecoweenies brought their blankets (battery opperated) and shivered throught the Giant carbon footprint of the Fireworks displays. Rumor has it one even died of hypothermia? Me, I just snuggled up next to my nice warm (outlawed) HT engine. I quietly thought to myself:idea:, we could all protest this (low temps) and start burning tires, a Tea Party of sorts.:devilish: I realize the Earth is our home and realize the importance of taking care of it. So my point in this is not necessarily political in agenda. Although I don't feel we should be getting hammered on (tax wise) for energy consumption. Anybody out there got any good tips for saving money by saving energy? Anybody ever made a windmill or solar pannel? Might be cheaper in the comming years to generate your own power! We here on this board are the inovators thinkers and doers of our current society. 90% of us have assembled our own bikes that save huge and burn less gas than any car! Let's put down the ecoweenie/not ecoweenie gloves and share some ideas! It's our house and sorry to say we all have to live in it! I'll appollogize to the Mods now if this thread goes sour. As with many other things in life, I like to approach matters with hummor. The intent here is niether to offend or put down anybody or group, I'm sure they'll be some jabs, but I think a good spirited discussion by THICK SKINNED unsensative people would go a long way here. MERRY FOURTH! LOL!