electric start "silver bullet train" engine

Discussion in '2-Stroke Engines' started by jatgm1, Aug 23, 2016.

  1. jatgm1

    jatgm1 Member

    my point exactly. it wont catch on. people dont want to deal with fixing all that sh*t. just too much. people also dont wanna pay that much. not to mention i really dont trust the chinese electronics on that damn thing. but id risk two engines for some fun, i have a full body D3o suit so i dont give a fu*k. that thing would be badass, dual wheel dual engine drive bicycle hauling up hills.
     

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  2. jatgm1

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  3. MotorBicycleRacing

    MotorBicycleRacing Well-Known Member

    It works really well, even able to perform quite respectably on a race track, Grange Motor Circuit.

    I have seen quite a few front mounted engines with chain and belt drive in person and in old photos
    of motorized bikes.

    One member here or the other forum built a few of them.


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  4. jatgm1

    jatgm1 Member

    see, and now think of two wheel drive, completely badass. two wheel drive motorized 136cc mountain bike. and is that a pocket bike motor? thats awesome. how did you get the gas to flow from the tank to the motor? a pump or a diaphragm carb?
     
  5. jatgm1

    jatgm1 Member

    okay, update about the electric start bullet train engine, it is being sold on spooky tooth cycles, and i just called them to ask about it and if they have replacement parts, they initially told me that they sold parts, then i asked them to direct me to where on their site the parts were located, and then said that the parts they had were for warantee stuff and that in two weeks they would have replacement parts listed on their site. i called them five minutes ago and will be posting a recording of the call in just a minute. if this is true, then this kit is really a good solution to DIY'ers that want an auto clutch and an electric start, and the ability to have decent lights on their bike.
     
  6. jatgm1

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  7. jatgm1

    jatgm1 Member

    50 seconds in the conversation starts, i just didnt feel like cutting the wait time out.
     
  8. KCvale

    KCvale Motorized Bicycle Vendor

    Spooky Tooth is just another web site name for Bike Berry now.
    Boy, they were really great once, and single handily got MB's legal here in AZ.
    They sold the business and retired a few years ago.
     
  9. jatgm1

    jatgm1 Member

    really? well, i guess i shouldn't hold my breath on them getting parts, hopefully the guy i was talking to wasnt talking out his a$$..
     
  10. KCvale

    KCvale Motorized Bicycle Vendor

    Depends on how you put it back together, for example did you use a torge wrench to put your head back on?
    I do all 4 nuts at 5# at a time in an X pattern to 20# for example.

    This is a good example how a 2-stroke works with and expansion chamber exhaust for the extra boost of power.

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    And this this a pretty good animation of how to assemble and disassemble a 2-stroke.

     
  11. jatgm1

    jatgm1 Member

    okay, i contacted zeda through their facebook page and found out how much parts are, they sent me a list. i added it to this post, i live in new york, so i asked how much it would cost to ship parts to here and i will post their reply. if they have a warehouse in the us like their facebook says it may not be too much.
     

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  12. jatgm1

    jatgm1 Member

    also, thats an interesting video, ive never had any luck getting my cylinders off without seperating the crank case a little first though.
     
  13. jatgm1

    jatgm1 Member

    for anyone that needs parts for the bullet train engine, this is all directly from zeda, this is how you can order them.

    i got a quote from zeda about prices for the parts and shipping to new york and how to contact them to get these parts ordered. their a tad bit pricey but its at least an option. im sure they'll discount shipping if your ordering a bunch of stuff. its only six hundred and something to ship 200 engines.

    BT-02(Cylinder Body): $24+$29=$53 including air shipping cost
    BT-03(Piston): $2.7+$15=$17.7 including air shipping cost
    BT-04(Piston ring): $1.54+$12=$13.54including air shipping cost
    BT-22(Automatic Clutch): $24.6+$25=$49.6 including air shipping cost
    BT-30(Starting Motor): $17.85+$27=$44.85 including air shipping cost
    BT-55(Pull Start Module): $11.69+$29=$40.69 including air shipping cost
    BT-56(Pull Start Cup): $4+$10=$14including air shipping cost
    BT-62(Pull Start Pulley): $2.46+$9=$11.46 including air shipping cost
    BT-66(Pull Start Spring): $1.38+$7=$9.38 including air shipping cost

    also, i got a method of contacting zeda right from them for replacement parts, heres a quote from our conversation

    "
    thank you, how would i tell my customers to get in contact with you? is there a phone number? also do you accept paypal?
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    Yes, my phone number: +86-13578765399
    My paypal account: admin@jlzeda.com
    You can let your clients contact me via facebook or email or phone/whatsapp,etc
    when can my customers call that number? what days is the line open for calls and what time?
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    We are 13 hours ahead.
    Here is 23:33 PM here now.
    You can let your clients contact me from 8:00 AM to 22:00 PM(China Time)
    "
    and a quote with the parts costs just incase.
    "
    if a customer needed one of these items how much would airmail shipping be?
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    ok, let me check it, moment.
    thank you
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    BT-02(Cylinder Body): $24+$29=$53 including air shipping cost
    BT-03(Piston): $2.7+$15=$17.7 including air shipping cost
    BT-04(Piston ring): $1.54+$12=$13.54including air shipping cost
    BT-22(Automatic Clutch): $24.6+$25=$49.6 including air shipping cost
    BT-30(Starting Motor): $17.85+$27=$44.85 including air shipping cost
    BT-55(Pull Start Module): $11.69+$29=$40.69 including air shipping cost
    BT-56(Pull Start Cup): $4+$10=$14including air shipping cost
    BT-62(Pull Start Pulley): $2.46+$9=$11.46 including air shipping cost
    BT-66(Pull Start Spring): $1.38+$7=$9.38 including air shipping cost
    That is all.
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  14. jatgm1

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  15. KCvale

    KCvale Motorized Bicycle Vendor

    Thanks!
     
  16. jatgm1

    jatgm1 Member

    no problem, maybe you can get that bike u have working again :) hate to see it go to waste.
     
  17. KCvale

    KCvale Motorized Bicycle Vendor

    When I built it the first time it was for reviewing on standard beach cruiser.
    If that motor becomes reliable I have bigger plans for it ;-}
     
  18. jatgm1

    jatgm1 Member

    well i cant speak for the reliability of the engines parts in general, as it is chinese, but the electric starter and pull starter, though important, arent things that interfere with performance en-route. not to mention if you can put a hole in the crank case in a way that lets you stick a portable drill with a oneway bearing into the crankshaft of the engine then you can start it with a drill like the new grubee engine their selling on ebay. pretty bada$$ looking, zip it right up. plus we've already established that the electric starter module is probably the same as a pit bike one, so you might be able to find a more durable version of that online somewhere if the zeda one is really just a piece of garbage.
     
  19. Frankenstein

    Frankenstein Well-Known Member

    I was thinking about that one way bearing idea for a while actually, I wanted to make a pull start using the same housing and putting a 1way in it from some butchered centrifugal clutch and a rollerskate wheel.
     
  20. KCvale

    KCvale Motorized Bicycle Vendor

    Hehehe, ya, Don talked to me about that and made the GT5A-ES (electric start) engine...
    https://grubee.net/collections/skyhawk-2-cycle-all/products/gt5a-es-2-stroke-engine

    Just get yourself a holster and carry a 20V impact wrench with you everywhere you ride!
    Just think of the comfort and new style trend! hehehe ;-}
     
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