Gold E-Krate first project build.

What size tires are you looking for?
26" there were a lot of complaints at Amazon and Ebay too. Decided to stick with what works. My rides on this will be once a month and not every month to a destination of 12.5 miles or about near 25 miles round trip. Most of that ride is on the basic bike path and sidewalks too. Sidewalks you are likely to find glass, but not too often. Nails and screws are more in the street than the sidewalk. With the little riding I do on it, I do not perceive too many issues. I would of course have preferred the Tannus solid tire than no worries would have occurred.
 
The shifter I am looking at will be this one...for the Gold Krate. Will paint the shifter (ball) knob gold in the case of the Gold Krate.

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I had considered this one as well...

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In the case of next years replikrates I'll be using this one...

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Get the Black/Silver shifter and paint the silver part Gold - It'll match nicely
Black gives the Gold bike contrast

Black/Silver wheels
Black hand grips
Black/Gold seat
Black/Gold pedals
Black cables
Black Display

Black/Gold shifter

Or leave the shifter Black/Silver It'll match your wheels

Just a suggestion, I'm sure you'll choose the colour you like
 
Get the Black/Silver shifter and paint the silver part Gold - It'll match nicely
Black gives the Gold bike contrast

Black/Silver wheels
Black hand grips
Black/Gold seat
Black/Gold pedals
Black cables
Black Display

Black/Gold shifter

Or leave the shifter Black/Silver It'll match your wheels

Just a suggestion, I'm sure you'll choose the colour you like
Nope going to go with what I decided on.
 
New problem. Okay let us examine this. Frame is a beach cruiser, has Sissy bar with shocks (Krate style) and they are wide. Rear hub motor has a 1/2 inch axle with each side flattened so it can fit in the 3/8 inch drop in slots. The derailleur a hanger type when added to the axle interferes with the shocks. Major issue here.

There are some considerations. I could drill slightly the derailleur to be a 1/2 inch since it bolts onto the axle. Then I could rotate it slightly out of the way of the shocks.

Another option would be a hanger adapter but again might be hitting the shocks. Remember that would have to fit the slotted axle and it makes it very difficult to position. Again, maybe drill the adapter hole bigger and then use a washer to bolt that down. BTW, I have decided to add the torque arm on the sprocket side. The left side I'll need for the disc caliper adapter to set that up.

Thoughts on this new "CUSTOM" building dilemma?

New tire and tube came in yesterday. Went with a HS430 Schwalbe Big Apple, also a Sun thorn proof tube and finally a tire insert between the tire and tube for additional protection. Too bad I couldn't get a solid tire on the rim. Seems they were all just too wide to fit on and next to impossible to install as well.
 
PROGRESS:

But first - Not sure how this will pan out. Got the derailleur installed. I guess when it moves forward with the chain it will be okay. Then I'll readjust the seat sissy bar again. Cannot find a caliper mount, bought universal ones but they require a bolt in and the way the axle is on this kit makes them not wanna fit properly. I am sure there is a mount somewhere. That said, I could just install a regular old fashioned pull caliper with the rear fender and that will work too.

Here are a few pics of the back end. Again, once I get the chain installed on the caliper it will hang down and forward and I believe the shocks on the sissy bar will clear more or less. I might have to locate a longer extension from the frame otherwise.

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Next the disc or left side, couldn't get the adapter to seat properly, also was an issue for a torque bar. Torque bar a problem too.

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However, the fight to get this working is definitely worth it in the end.

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The flying rack under the seat will be removed. Good news for now and we will see shortly, looks like the pedals will clear for riding on level surfaces. Also, it looks like I'll be able to locate a solid controller box on the seat down tube just ahead of the rear fender. There appears enough room, but I'll be double checking it.

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Not to worry. Will be lowering the sissy bar once I have chained this to see how the derailleur is positioned, and slightly raising the front seat tube bar.

So what's next? Found the original Archer cable, will be cutting the end off for parts and should have the front brake complete. As for the rear brake, probably easier for traditional pull caliper but won't mount that till the rear fender comes in. That will be in a few weeks next month and then the, controller box, stick shift and chain guard plus I'll be laser printing a transfer custom logo posted here earlier by me for the Gold Krate.

In December we go for the triangle battery in bag in the frame and it should come to life. Okay and finally a poll I'll be conducting, twist or thumb throttle. Both have their advantages and disadvantages.
 
Parts came in to begin finishing up the Archer brake on the front. Will have to remove the rear wheel and add a washer for spacing on the left side and third washer on the right side. I am going to look at a small steel flat piece drilled to accept a slight extender for the rear shock sissy bar so that it won't interfere with the derailleur as it can potentially do right now. In addition this should allow me to add at least a torque bar on the right side
 
Update: This month we should receive the shifter, on order right now, a large seat tube controller box, clear stick on laser printer decals, Chain guard.

On agenda: things that must be fixed first. Additional spacer for the gear side of the rear hub wheel to clear the chain from any nearby bolts. At least one Torque bar for the gear side of the rear hub axle. Custom short extensions will need to be made to extend the rear sissybar shocks about an inch further out so as not to interfere with the derailleur. Right now the right shock will drop onto the cable for the derailleur. Extension about 2 inches to extend the front fender down closer to the tire. A friend who used to own a local bike shop pointed that out and it makes the front fender more functional. Find a way to either modify the adapter for the 1/2 axle as the angle it slides onto the flattened parts of the axle make it aim in the wrong directions on the Cruiser frame. If not, I might go for an older style grabber brake. I have been informed that the disc brakes when wet slip very badly.

Achieved: The front end with exception of the piece for the front fender is essentially finished. The Archer brake is hooked up, adjusted and working well. You will see this in the photos below.

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Cable locked.




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Archer Brake finished and adjusted. Works very well.

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Disc brake adapter will be an issue. The 1/2 axle is the main hindrance here. I am considering drilling the 3/8 hole on the adapter to a 1/2 inch to make it work. Since the top of this type of adapter also closes onto the frame post, it should be sturdy enough to anchor the rear caliper I will presume.

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Part of the pitfalls of a first time custom build are what you discover. As mentioned above a small extender piece for the sissybar will have to be fabricated to extend it between a half to an inch out so when it drops down during usage, it doesn't interfere with the derailleur. Right now it is dead center over where the cable goes into the derailleur.

Anyhow if all goes well, by next month I should have a battery on this and hopefully a first ride test. It will be later in December when this might happen. Stay well everyone and feel free to weigh in.
 
Problems and resolutions and a fabrication:

First off the mount for the rear brake disc caliper. The problem arises that most mount adapters are for 3/8 inch axles, but ebike axles are a 1/2 inch or thereabouts, and they flatten both sides so it can slip into a 3/8 inch drop-in, did I get that right? Okay check it out, angle is wrong on this mount, won't work. Tried it at both forward angles forget the other direction facing backwards as it interferes with the fat sissybar shocks.

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and turning it vertical still won't work.
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and below the culprit. It might be possible to drill it to a 1/2 inch but it'll be mighty thin, however that allows me to rotate it to perhaps a working position. The problem is the position of the beach cruiser frame rear drop in and the axle flat side in that drop in.
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However since it's a cheap part...why not give it a go. The main anchor anyhow will be the upper loop that tightens down on the frame.

Okay next the torque arm. Being this is over 500 watts, it requires some protection for the drop ins. Here is what I am considering. Removing one of the inside washers on the gear side and mounting the torque arm inside as a spacer and also it would be closer to the center thus absorbing more of the torque. That leaves me enough axle outside for the bolt on derailleur.
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On the outside now and it only works at this angle and setup, but will clear the chain and cassette with enough room on the inside. This will solve two problems. So this is what I am seriously considering.

Next up the sissybar shock mount. Have decided to use a steel piece and fabricate it to go about 3/4 to an inch longer and stick it with three holes drilled on the outside of the mount. This would allow me to move the sissybar about an inch back and off the derailleur, though and here it comes. This will increase slightly the chance of the "Wheelie Factor" on take off and unless the rider sits a bit forward, lightens the front end to less control potentially.

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Anyhow weigh in especially on the caliper mount adapter if you think there is a better option. I am also thinking because disc brakes don't grip well on very wet discs and all things considered with how rare I'll be taking this out for an occasional jaunt, I can also go to like a side pull caliper similar to the original earlier Krates. Anyhow stay safe tomorrow, going to potentially get wild, I should have the order for the stick shift and mount for it in shortly. Once I have the torque bar situation resolved in the next day or so, will be looking at getting the derailleur mounted and the chain on possibly. Appears the pedals will clear, what a relief. Will probably cut and drill the steel extensions for the sissybar mounts, then paint em gold. Add the shifter and a gold chain guard with logo. The controller box for the seat post comes in Friday, maybe earlier. If that works then it starts coming together fast. Have received gloss clear sticky back laser print paper for the chain guard gold krate logo similar to what I posted here a few weeks ago. Also am going to create a black trim arrow from 1 to 7 speed for the shifter as Schwinn's original only went to 5 speed or a Lo to Hi one.

Next month, add the rear gold fender and resolve the brake issue for the rear brake, the front brake is nailed works perfect for now. Then finally the triangle frame mounted battery bag and connect it up, turn it on. After charging of course, then we hopefully get lights. If the motor spins, button it up, make final handle bar adjustments and seat adjustments and we are ready in late December, barring that all goes well, for the maiden voyage.

I am documenting all of this for you guys so if you want to build a larger Krate frame or even a Gold Krate which I hope you'll credit me for :) so you guys can build your own.
 
Get a new piece of flat bar and make a new mount, make it a little wider so the axle drop out is 12 mm instead of 3/8" You just need a piece as wide as the mount. Then drill a couple holes into it.
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