Happy-Time Magneto Installation Video

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Hi All,

here's the link for the impatient readers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xz7aD97D3Zk

After much delayed waitings to diagnose my bike,
and to get it to at least start, I have finally at least got it starting.
Note, not running properly, but starting...I used a lubricant (INOX, like WD 40)
as a kick-start. I chatted about using Aero-start elsewhere,
and after a initial failed start, this stuff got me running right up,
so my next issue is definitely fuel related...

The key failure was the magneto. I had no resistance Blue to Black.
Or open circuit. Same as with leads apart.

Take note of the 318 reading half way through.
This is what it should be Blue to Black, and will be my memorial to
my magneto's validity.

Something I realised, is that the %$*(~! hole where the electrical wires
enters the motor, caused about two months worth of bad starts for me.

My bike came with no plug for this hole, but Warren provided me
with a plug for the replacement mag, you'll see me hold it up with my fingers.

I remember doing a engine degrease (water and all),
and straight after that the bikes performance degraded on a
gradual down-hill slope.

I recently installed a new magneto and sealed it with Silicone.
You'll see the gasket repaired with this as well.
Along the route of doing the install, I took shots with my Mobile phone
at key points of the install.

I did this in my small bedroom as I have no garage, so the red thing is a
plastic tarp on the floor.

This gave me still footage to combine into a video.
Many thanks to all those who gave me advice.

I took the advice of Papasun, to use business cards to seperate
the arms of the magneto, and ibdennyak's to use a sealant.
Its been raining alot here, so this will be key to keeping it running
in the wet.

There's davidsis ibdennyak eltatertoto (for vid inspiration),
anyone else who's answered my questions/given my big mouth ideas advice,
thanks, this is what makes this site great.


I think next time I'll use a my pocket digital camera,
this vid lacks picture quality, but makes up for it with "artistry".

Anyone hard of sight, run it on smaller size I guess.
My only feedback so far was "I can't see it clearly".
I ran it full screen and looks ok to me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xz7aD97D3Zk

Any feedback/comments ?
Any technical faults in my install ?

You may notice the muffler changes from chrome
to black (high Temp Black Paint), as this is my original wiring with the Kill switch wired in.
Notice big chunks of solder.

Here's how this was wired.

Red (kill switch) to White (motor)
Black (kill switch) to Black Motor and Black CDI
Blue (motor) to Blue CDI.

I painted the whole bike black, even cables so you have
to analyse it, to see the colours through the black paint.

The new wiring has no kill switch, no solder, to simplify trouble shooting.
I am going to wire in kill switch across blue to black,
as heard that its better to short than over-load the magneto.

Stay Positive, It Helps.

CYA

Will Start


 
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Any feedback/comments ?....gotta love those BMW's. :)


Just kiddin man.Your making progress and that's good...nothing worse than standing still with nothing happening. :(
Please keep us informed as we wanna see u properly mobile,Zoom Zoom. :)
 
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Any feedback/comments ?....gotta love those BMW's. :)


Just kiddin man.Your making progress and that's good...nothing worse than standing still with nothing happening. :(
Please keep us informed as we wanna see u properly mobile,Zoom Zoom. :)

My bike has been more stationary spider home/art statue than reliable transport.
I've learnt not to ride it work, when its running rough.

Since getting on here I've learnt alot of self-diagnosis.
So update:
I now know I that my bike is bogging out. Which is a fuel issue.

Course of Action:

-1. Adjust Idle Screw to 4 turns CCW.
0. Each time, try it again with the INOX can shown in vid.
1. So my next course of work is to change the E clip to 2nd top and then lowest position.
2. Top up the fuel.
3. Seal the carb with the glass sealant shown in this Vid.
(is that a bad idea ?)
4. Change inlet gasket, I got a spare.
5. Clean muffler and baffle.
6. try muffler without baffle.
7. think.

thanks for feedback.

WILL.
 
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Good to hear that you are almost ready to ride again. :cool:

But tell me,,,,,,,, is there an inline fuel filter on your bike? I looked at your woodriff key vid and did not see one.
clean your tank out and make sure the Carb is clean also.

Filter in line and the float bowl off,,, turn on the gas and see that it drains thru, (no gunk in the line to slow the flow).

Back OT: Nice vid and it really shows it step by step for the install.

Papa
 
Good to hear that you are almost ready to ride again. :cool:

But tell me,,,,,,,, is there an inline fuel filter on your bike? I looked at your woodriff key vid and did not see one.

...
the float bowl off,

Papa

I can feel the realiability creeping in.
Mainly because I'm understanding more.

what does float bowl off mean exactly ?
I once put on a fuel filter and the bike stopped, altogether.

Once I get it running, I plan to re-add the filter.
I have one at the ready. But until it cleanly starts and until it runs properly,
I'm not adding it again.

I have done 1 10 litre Can of Fuel, and just started the second,
which led to the Woodruff and now this vid.

The carbie is brand new, and I've cleaned the fuel tank out and cleaned
the internal tank filter.

ages ago, I filled a hole in the barrel, which I attach a pic of.
It still seems to have lots of compression,
so the hole I've been told will have no effect.

CYA

Will.
 

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No problem my friend. I (we) appreciate your appreciation. Just happy to see you are on the way to a healthy bike again. Actually you have confirmed my theory that most of my problems are climate related also. Have to say, my Dax 70 has been pretty bullet proof mechanically. Most of my problems are moisture related. (Will that get me a discount on a Titan, Duane?:D)

Actually, there is one thing you could do for me. With your video expertise, could you flush your old mag down your toilet and post a vid of which way the water swirls? It would save me a trip "down under" to see for myself.

Denny
 
RE: Bolts, Holes, Toilets, Bowls and floats...


Hey guys,

The hole stopped at the engine bolt. you can see the bolt
in the picture, maybe its a fault that will haunt me forever.

As I could get everything else right, and still have a "hole in my lung".
(NB Thats a reference to the second song on the vid.)

However, this motor used to take off in the first 10 Litres of fuel.
I once clocked at 40km per hour, on a road-side radar detector.
(I have a speedo to install).

Papa, thanks for the link, I understand the test now.

Denny, maybe you could do a special toilet mag vid for me (that made me laugh).
(Oz Toilets have a small amount of water at the bottom, US toilets fill to the high tide mark, so would be a cross cultural comparison :) )

I'm going to try get some resistance back into my old coil by removing the coating and wrapping it in wire. I never throw away my old parts, as I can use
them to study, and ponder over, when its raining, and I can't go out to play.

CYA

WILL.
 
Will...have u concidered returning your HT engine for replacement....it's VERY unusual to have a hole in the barrel like that and honestly i don't know how much u could trust it (and the rest of the engine)
I'm not trying to be an alarmist i'm just thinking of safety.....is it still under warranty?
Now that u know the do's and don't's swapping over HT's would be relatively easy.
 
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Augi, that time lapse in the audio makes it look like you're gonna crash into the house. I love the sound of that motor. It would be so awesome to just jump on a MB and be on the beach. Just think a few more months and there will be a High Tide of Motoredbikes on that beach.
Will, that's a great video and sound track. Good work! You are going to be so friggin proud of that bike!
 
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