Hello from NYC the state that hates MB

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  1. hi everyone i am from new york city that hates mbers. after trying for months to find loop holes through the system i could find only few stuff that might work. i'll discuss that in other sction. well its nice to meet you all. anyone who is from new york and rides an MB which is not an actual MOPED please im me and leave me comment.

  2. bluegoatwoods

    bluegoatwoods Well-Known Member

    welcome aboard.

    It's a pity some places are harsher about these bikes.

    But you'll still have fun.
  3. Mountainman

    Mountainman Active Member

    welcome -- hope that someone can help you to -- skirt the laws over there

    so you can -- ride the motor bike THING
  4. uncle_punk13

    uncle_punk13 Guest

    Good to meet ya'! Frfom the little I know, and what I have heard NYC is one of the strictest in the nation, and there is little to get around it. Sorry to hear that, but keep working on it, as you never know what little loophole from years ago may still be on the books... Keep on building and riding!
  5. buzbikebklyn1

    buzbikebklyn1 New Member

    if its a gasser? build a better quieter muffler
    im going electric to avoid the entire mess alltogether
  6. machiasmort

    machiasmort Active Member

    Mine is pretty Quiet... Friends tell me it sounds electric unless I hammer it.

    I packed my muffler w/ steel wool and put cardboard inside my gearbox cover!
  7. buzbikebklyn1

    buzbikebklyn1 New Member

    Its very annoying really, I always feel like Im going to get busted just riding to work.
    We put alot of time money and effort into our rides and were treated like criminals.
    BUT they(the state) will take your money to register a lame moped.
  8. photo245

    photo245 New Member

    that is what it is all about money thats all it will ever be about
  9. happycheapskate

    happycheapskate Active Member

    This is expensive, but Staton has a gasser kit that looks like an electric bike.

    At staton's website, there is a kit ($500 with engine and gear) that mounts a 2 or 4 stroke engine at the left axle, and runs an e-bike chain around a cog on the hub. If you took the plastic cover off the motor and made one to hide the pull-start, you could probably disguise it with some "wires" and a "battery pack", or even a real battery pack to run the lights/brake light etc. http://www.staton-inc.com/store/images/products/preview/3612.jpg
  10. Lazieboy

    Lazieboy Member

    Just ride

    Just ride and lay low. alleys,backrodes,at night no light.
  11. buzbikebklyn1

    buzbikebklyn1 New Member

    Its a mess... theres no good reason for the average China doll or 4 stroke equipt M/B to be illegal here in NY.
    A few years back in there was a flood of those cheap 2 stroke sit on scooters that hit the market, of course the kids went crazy for them and a few got hurt, and of course the city clamped down on ANY THING with a motor on it that wasn't registrable, there for open to registration fees, insurance, and needed a license to ride.

    Those little scoots were dangerous, and the state has a point, there should be some kind of registration process, safety inspection and licensing needed.
    Some people just refuse to ride safely and obey the rules, enforcement of some kind is needed.
    But as usual they throw baby out with the bathwater, and outlaw ANY non registrable motorized vehicle just to save them selves the trouble of having to enforce any new codes.
    The DMV has its head stuck in cement on this subject, no one who works there will touch the subject, they just keep quoting the regulations and sticking there fingers in there ears going "LA LA LA LA LA , I cant hear you".

    But things have changed up a bit, I saw a gas station sign in lower Manhattan yesterday that said $4.24.9.
    for Mobil premium gas. YIKES!
    By the end of this summer I expect to see that price closer to $6 dollars a gallon.
    Bet on it.
    We need to conserve fuel, we need to get around.
    I think its time the legislators in Albany get the wake up call, we need some new legislation to allow for home built motorized bicycles.
    We need to contact our representatives and insist on legislation to make M/Bs legal.
    One voice can be ignored, ten voices, a hundred... but if we (all M/B riders) speak as one we can effect change.

    The china girls all get over 100 MPG, we need that kind of economical personal transport
    I've been seeing more and more new mopeds on the streets, more resurrected old 70s mopeds, more electric bicycles(very popular with delivery guys) and I've even seen a few rack mounted 4 strokes running around... If they (the state) really want to they could give the home builts VIN numbers and make them legal after passing an equipment check and registration.

    I had to buy an old moped with its papers, guess how much of it I used in my new build? Try just the registration plate, I had to stamp the old engines and frames numbers on my new engine (illegal by the way) and pass the bike off as a regular moped that had been modified.
    I HAD to break the law to complie with there regulations.
    This makes no sense to me at all.

    I call on all New York State M/Bers,
    CALL YOUR REPRESENTATIVES IN ALBANY, insist on legislation changes, it CAN BE DONE, but we have to take some initiative here, freedom isn't free, no ones going to just hand it to us, we have to become involved or our Hobby/Sport/Art dies.
  12. professor

    professor Active Member

    Buzz- there was legislation last yr to make electrics legal, but it died in a committee headed by a moron from around your area.
    If we can't even get elect.- how could we ever get gas power?
    When that happened, I went the same route you did.
  13. happycheapskate

    happycheapskate Active Member

    I expect a lot of people will just start driving them anyway, and probably just count it a business or survival expense if they are ticketed or the bikes are confiscated by the police state. Probably the state will finally "give in" and "allow" mb's but will require stupidly expensive insurance and fees that add up to costs similar to what it costs to drive a car.

    I think most of the stuff about registration and taxes is just to feed the beast, not for public works or public safety, but for the golf habits and coke habits of giddy elected officials.

    It's still worth trying though, because if enough people care, some of the politicians will fake populism to make their lives easier, and make concessions to interest groups or common culture.
  14. buzbikebklyn1

    buzbikebklyn1 New Member

    Screw this.... im making bigger mufflers.
  15. buzbikebklyn1

    buzbikebklyn1 New Member

    Yeah, they try to discourage you that way Prof. We cant just give up...
    Keep contacting your representatives... "killing" legislation is like trying to keep crab grass from growing if it wants to it will grow back.
    As a retired law enforcement officer i find it strange now to be on the opposite side of the law, but ya know what?
    I love this hobby, I'm not giving it up because some willy nilly politician is trying to curry votes from other overly Pc jack wagons who don't like Chinese food delivery guys buzzing there neighborhood on there 350 watt POS electrics and riding kamikaze style in Manhattans fashionably snotty Sutton place.
    I pay attention to the traffic laws when i ride, i don't ride on the sidewalk, i don't jump curbs in the middle of the block i wear a helmet, eye protection and gloves.
    Let those who break the laws pay the price-
    I'm just saddened that after a life time of upholding the law i was forced to seek a loophole in it so i can continue the hobby ive chosen.

    That yahoo legislator from "my" area you mentioned isnt from Brooklyn...lol we have a better sense of humor... and hes on his way out.
    Now I'm gonna go throw a leg over my Nasty little 66 cc gt5r hard tail and go for a ride... maybe ill hit Coney Island and get me a few hot dogs and a beer.

    Last edited: Mar 20, 2011
  16. i stay away from names like motorised bike or moped when talking to road agencies, its a pushbike with a 48cc internal combustion engine bolted on. or better pushbike with alternative method of propulsion.

    grey areas have been very usefull to me and i like the grey area where noone really knows anything becouse they have not asked in years so they dont know.

    and believe me when you get a good reply. copy print laminate and carry with you so you can pull it out and show it to whoever stops you...

    a little knowledge is a dangerous thing my friends.
  17. buzbikebklyn1

    buzbikebklyn1 New Member

    I like it... its a shame we cant be up front about this... but hey... use what ya got...
  18. Stan4d

    Stan4d New Member

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