Wow, y'all clammed up really quick when I mentioned electric...or maybe it was my stoopid comment on the 35cc, lol. Regardless, I'm def going ebike. I found out OR. is one of just 6 states that allow for a 1000W motor, though the 20mph max is ridiculous with a motor of that size. Maybe I can wire up some sort of secret granny switch, and would prob not be going any faster than that anyway. Should make for a great hill climber, though! I'll stay here and start a thread in the electric section...y'all are very nice, and I could see plenty of snobs poo pooing a cheap build elsewhere, like endless sphere.