Help: 4 stroke Cruiser stock brakes build

Discussion in 'General Questions' started by kbests, Jul 28, 2016.

  1. kbests

    kbests New Member

    I'm in Virginia. As some of you may know, these bikes are not "legal" to drive on roads until titled as a moped at which point I can legally drive up to 35 MPH while following general traffic laws. This is fine but it might be a head ache. If anyone has gone this route in Va or another state, let me know how it has worked out.

    It seems that people go to a lot of effort to do the jack shaft. Not sure if this is right but I don't want to go to the trouble. What do you all think? Is it possible to add v brakes later to the bruiser?

    The idea of my build
    Fito Modena GT2 7 Speed Disc Brakes (If I can use the disc brakes w/o bike gears but still Jack shaft later)
    Firmstrong Bruiser w/ coaster brakes and single speed.

    Bikeberry 49cc Flying Horse 5g
    ebay kit

  2. kbests

    kbests New Member

    I am also willing to get the micargo cruisers from Bikeberry. I did notice the 4 stroke engine they carry says not compatible with pedals. What or where should I buy these pedals? I have noticed people adding v brake to the fatal love
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  3. bakaneko

    bakaneko Active Member

    if you need to title, do you need insurance too? the insurance part might be harder than title.
  4. kbests

    kbests New Member

    Not required in va. The law passed in 2014 seems to be in place to prevent those with a dui. Its a two step process. First title an untitled vehicle and after register it as moped
  5. bakaneko

    bakaneko Active Member

    Well that is darn good that you don't need insurance. If you are going with the HuaSheng, which most do for a 49cc 4-stroke, then the real difference is in the transmission. I have seen 4 readily available transmission types:

    - Chain Transmission (1:3 gear reduction; I have this but needs a chain guide inside the transmission box as chain stretches)
    - Double Chain Transmission with Free Wheel
    - 7G Belt Transmission
    - 4G Belt Transmission

    Belts are generally better than chain because eventually you will have chain stretch and need a new chain or a fix. With a belt, you just go ahead and easily replace the belt. The belts are also less noisy and the transmission housing is beefier. I got the single chain transmission due to the price but it works fine for me after I put in the chain guide in the transmission, but with the guide you can really hear the chain and sometimes it "hiccups" due to the slack chain. The one thing I like about BikeBerry's transmission is that there is a freewheel inside so it doesn't rotate when you are not using the engine. I am not sure if the belt transmissions have that too. And, then you can always go rear wheel friction setup.

    I am sure others can comment on the transmission they feel is best for the money.

    Yeah, you can always add the jackshaft/shifter later after trying out the direct drive rear sprocket.
  6. kbests

    kbests New Member

    Wow this is great info. I do like the sound of the belt drive but the point you made about berry's freewheel sounds appealing as well. Looks like i have more to investigate.

    Oh, What is the difference between 7,5, or 4g?
    Last edited: Jul 28, 2016