how long can you ride?

rozenaetr

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Hi, folks!

I'm planning on using my bike for commuting back and forth, once a week or so, between Gallup, NM and Fort Defiance, AZ--roughly 30 miles each way.

I just got my new motor and wanted to make sure I break it in fairly easily.

I was wondering if anyone has any experience with their bikes overheating or pushing them too far too soon? My real question is whether there is a time limit on riding before you might need to kill the motor and let it cool down?

Thanks in advance for all answers. I also apologize if this question has been asked before.
 


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I think you'll find u quit before the engine.
30 miles each way is not excessive for either a 2 or 4 stroke that's been run-in.
Don't overdo it with speed & remember routine maintenence..........have a good seat.
 

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that would be the key question ???

It would be a great help if we knew what type of engine you have and drive train.
thinking that the Happy Time engines may need a little more break in time

it's the good old standard when breaking in engines
throttle between off -- idle -- 1/3 to 3/4 taking time to cool off when new

someTHING like that -- many variations

have fun when you ride that THING
 
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cooling down, etc.

Zev0: I just got one of those 48 cc HT kits with the chain and sprocket (40 tooth currently).

Mountainman: The guy I bought my kit recommended I need to run it no more than 30 minutes before letting it cool off. This is during the first tank or so. Is that what you mean? How long does an engine take to cool off? (I imagine this might vary with the weather and other factors.)

fetor56: does run-in mean broken-in?

Thanks for all the other replies as well. I'll look into a comfortable seat.
 

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that was good advice

Mountainman: The guy I bought my kit recommended I need to run it no more than 30 minutes before letting it cool off.
good advice
after running varying speeds slowly between 1/3 to 2/3
I when they are new -- shut down and cool off after 15 to 30 min ride time
cool of time ?? 10 to 20 min ??

then hop on again and ride that thing
 

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after break-in?

Mountainman: After break-in, do you know there is a limit to the amount of time you can ride before you'll need to let it cool down?
 

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kind of like when a person get's a heat stroke ???

Mountainman: After break-in, do you know there is a limit to the amount of time you can ride before you'll need to let it cool down?
hey there rozen

I am under the impression that once any (good running engine) is broken in

they should be able to run all day and night long

but -- have noticed in the past -- mainly with two strokes
while riding in the (real heat) desert in summer
sometimes one might feel the engine slow down a little
not good -- time for cool off period
kind of like when a person get's a heat stroke
give them a rest in the cool shade -- if some can be found

then in a while -- get back on and ride that thing
 

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hey rozen

just one more THING I wish to mention regarding 2-strokes
I have noticed that many these days wish to run them as lean as possible
why -- I just don't understand ???

all of my 2-strokes ever owned going back now 50 years
I give them at least the amount of oil recommended or a

TOUCH more in my book never hurt nothing...... never had one blow up

MM
 
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@rozen
Yeah man,u say broken-in we say run-in.
It all amounts to the same thing so as long as u go the recommended new engine distance(approx 250Mls/400Km) u should be fine.
When in doubt or when going on long trips run the engine rich & DON'T throttle-off completely going down steep hills....2-strokes need that oil/gas mixture for lubrication.
 

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slowing down (cooling down, cont.)

Thanks all for your help!

MM: A few more questions. I'm sure I'll discover this in time, and since it's a little chilly I likely won't have to worry about it, but are there any other signs aside from feeling heat and the engine slowing down that could tip me off that I need to let it cool down?

Also by lean, do you mean using too little oil in the oil/gas mixture?
 
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temperatures above 100

engine slowing down that could tip me off that I need to let it cool down?

Also by lean, do you mean using too little oil in the oil/gas mixture?
times for cool down periods
you will be ok -- you will get to know your engine soon
if and when a little cool down is needed
from the engine acting somewhat sluggish -- you will know

have on a very few occasions had engines get hot to the point
where when stopped -- they almost smelt hot

more possible cool off reasons -- or over heating noticed -----
in time we usually get used to a little heat between our legs from engine heat
at times this spot has also been a tip off spot -- regarding over heating

all in all -- you shouldn't have any problems
here in San Diego many of us go to the desert for riding fun
it can get up to 120 out there
have found that temperatures above 100
can put some stress on air cooled engines

yes -- too lean = not enough 2-stroke oil

ride that motor bike
 
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Hot

I ride in Mohave Dessert heat !@) F oops i meant 120 F with a bushing happy time.

The pavement is so hot I never stop for three reasons
1. I don't want to burn my feet on the hot pavement.
2. I don't want my happy time to seize up.
3 Then I would have to walk see number 1.


Use a Castor/ synthetic 2 stroke AIR cooled engine oil mixed at 20 to 24 to one.
Only the constant air flow around the running engine keeps it going.

Down hill when you naturally want to close the throttle is dangerous pull in the clutch and blip the throttle to keep the oil flowing to your engine.
The intake is problematic on a happy time It can get loose with vibration.
No cooling oil flow.
I got tired of my carb falling off and glued on about 8 months ago.

I routinely ride for at least two hours.
I usually try not to. But time flies when you are having fun.

Get a good seat I like the $20.00 tractor style from kmart or wallmart.
 
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I noticed when I rode I was able to ride about for about 2 hours with no problems, however that was in below/at freezing temperatures. So it sounds like heat is a big factor.
 
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the longest i've ridden?

The longest trip i've ridden so far was from sudbury to markstay warren which is about 55kms out side of town. So in general I ended up traveling at
least about 110 kms both ways on one tank of gas for hree one half hours strait and by the time i made it back to town, all the way back to timmy's
hortons on lorn st. I checked my tank and seen that ihad just enough juice
to get me back to home which was another 1km away. Average speed was
around 26/27 mph all the way there and back, man that was an awsome ride.
:cool::rolleyes::D
 
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hey rozen

just one more THING I wish to mention regarding 2-strokes
I have noticed that many these days wish to run them as lean as possible
why -- I just don't understand ???

all of my 2-strokes ever owned going back now 50 years
I give them at least the amount of oil recommended or a

TOUCH more in my book never hurt nothing...... never had one blow up

MM
Yeah man, I wouldn't risk the heart of the vehicle that way either, I don't want to be stuck at the bottom of some valley with a kaput engine.
 
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I know this is from a long time ago but it could help someone from now try buying yourself a predator engine from Harbor Freight 4-stroke you shouldn't have any problems with those they have a fan built in to keep the engine cool while it's running.
 

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It is very important not to over heat your engine during break-in. Because there is extra friction as your rings grind down you should use extra oil in your mix and stop after short rides to let the engine cool for 10 mins. After break-in you can heat it up more without too much risk however, I would recommend getting a high compression head with large fins. These little engines are air cooled and those fins make a big difference.
 

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