I ride a 3000 dollar pedal racing bike but....

Discussion in 'Introduce Yourself' started by KevinK, Jun 28, 2010.

  1. KevinK

    KevinK Member


    I just joined your group. I am a very experienced cyclist. Yet the notion of motorizing a bike is very interesting.
    I plan on using one of the kits that are out there to motorize a 20 year old rock solid Gary Fisher bike for commuting to work and back a distance of about 70 miles or so.
    I know little of your community here but am very very impressed with what I have seen on this site.
    Some very creative and innovative people who's posts I have read about motorized bikes.
    I saw a post on one of your forums kind of ridiculing the traditional racing culture that I must admit I am much a part of. I see no point in that. Look at it this way: gas is 3 bucks a gallon and motorizing a bike makes just so much sense. The two just don't matter. In cycling race culture the line is that "its all about the motor". A human motor like Lance Armstrong can produce at most 3/4 of a horse power for one hour. The average Joe can do just a fraction of that. So I see no problem motorizing a bike for basic transportation. I personally believe in power assist motors. I believe in pedaling a bicycle at least part of the time. I believe that these power assisted bikes should be loosely regulated and should not need insurance nor any operators drivers licenses. But of course that is just my opinion.
    I have looked around on this site and searched the net. I have a 70 plus mile commute so I plan on using one of the vendors to modify one of my bikes to do this. I must point out that from the bicycle came the auto and our vast road system in America. Just seems like things need to just get a little simpler in the future to get from point A to point B.
    Its all cycling as I see it.
    Ride your bike and have fun...


  2. SimpleSimon

    SimpleSimon Active Member

    Welcome aboard, and I congratulate you on your rationality and your open-mindedness. I've known a lot of bicyclists in my life (I grew up in the Portland, OR area at the beginning of the cycling culture there in the late 60's - early 70's) and far too many of them have been aggressively chauvinistic about it - it is refreshing to encounter your attitue.

    Feel free to jump in the pool and join the party, you are very welcome.
  3. G-Superior

    G-Superior Member


    Hi Kevin and welcome to MBc
    you will sure find some people like you here(not sure about the 3000 dollar pedal racing bike but anyways)
    motored biking is probably the most efficient way of transport:D and you will sure enjoy it, it is so nice to get pulled up a hill with no more than effort than twisting the throttle:bowdown: plus you will never get tired:grin5:
    Good luck with your projects and hope to see you riding with more style than ever soon! :helmet:
  4. G-Superior

    G-Superior Member


    Why does some one always reply before me!:confused:
    its my second or third time now:D
  5. SimpleSimon

    SimpleSimon Active Member

    The early bird gets the worm. In my case that is doubly true - my surname is Early.
  6. beast775

    beast775 Guest


    i ride even though i have a torn acl.i have a mitsu 43cc staton and a 36v 15ah batt bike also.its fun around here been here quite along time and will continue.enjoy and welcome.i have some expensive bikes but there old timers some from the 1800s.

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  7. Happy Valley

    Happy Valley Active Member

    Welcome dude, long time cyclist here also but just having age catch up with me, a little power assist is a good thing as the grades seem to be getting steeper these days. :D

    Take a good look before choosing what you want would be my advice, and ask all the questions that come to mind, there can be a lot of difference in systems and some better for your needs than others.
  8. ibdennyak

    ibdennyak Guest


    I am in a bike aware area (Juneau, Ak) and appreciate your attitude. Most bicyclists here are vary from *love it to Hate it* with the majority being admiringly curious. There are a few who treat me with scorn, but very few. Probably like any other interest.

    My attitude has been that everyone gets a chance to express his/her opinion, and my reaction is taken from there attitude. So far, the experience has been predominantly positive.

    Again, thank you and welcome.
  9. KevinK

    KevinK Member

    Thanks all of you for the very warm welcome!
    I take lycra racing culture with a grain of salt but now in our racing group I am in with the older guys. I quit racing when I turned 40 but still do fast training rides with some of the young studs. As now I am in my very early 50's with cycling gaining so much in popularity I am now having trouble keeping up with the fast women(no problems with fast women) so its just the way life goes. Trust me there are just some phenominal women athletes getting into cycling! And I know some ladies who like me would absolutely commute on a motor assisted bike to save a few bucks.
    Cycling has some really great people involved in the sport. I absolutely see no problem with power assisting a bicycle.
    I am going to outfit my project with a rack mounted Golden Eagle belt driven engine. My bike will also have all derallilures taken off and ran as a single speed. I can align the chainline better with a single speed and eliminate a lot of moving parts that get gunked up in bad weather. Also, I already have a set of very sturdy planet bike fenders already on the bicycle.
    As a side note I tool around on a Surly Steamroller fixed gear single speed bike for training. This is pure simplicity. So, I am still a pretty strong rider and with a good motor assist that I can help along I hope this will work out OK.
    I know I am a newbe so if I am nutty with this line of thought please let me know.
    And as to Surly? What a great company. www.surlybikes.com. The company sells great frames with horizontal drop outs so that bolt on wheels just work great and one can tension a single speed drive train up with out any problems.
    Check out there solid steel frames. The problem as I see it is the lack of good inexpensive quality steel frames in the age of high tech carbon fiber. I personally believe that steel frames would probably be the best answer for motorizing a bicycle. Again I must stress that I am a newbe but I am trying to use what I know of cycling to build a great problem free commuter bike.
    As in the movie Alice in Wonderland Alice has her dream and tells her dad that she thinks that she is going mad. And her dad replies "all the best people are".
    And methinks that I might be going a little mad with this motor bike thing....

  10. KevinK

    KevinK Member

    Hey G-Superior,

    My Orbea carbon wonder machine weighs in at 17.5 lbs. I am 52 years old and am reasonably fit. I pedal that bike on 40 mile rides and average between 18 and 22 mph on some very rural roads. This is a very striped down racing machine with low spoke count wheels and boy I can fly down hills well over 40 mph. Its a rush and it keeps me fit.
    That is not commuting in all kinds of weather and carrying a few things to go to work. That does not take into account the fatigue of a long ride and then a day on the job. That does not help stinking because you have sweet dripping off of you when you hit the office!
    That does not take into account stop lights and cars and the whole nine yards that we cyclists put up with. A bike that can go 30 mph in my opinion is just a huge advantage! Thanks for a great site.
    I am very pumped up to get rolling on this conversion!

  11. ibdennyak

    ibdennyak Guest

    Again, kudos on your attitude......makes life so much more pleasant with a live and let live point of view.

    One thing....if you have any extra fast women you are more than welcome to send them up here. I would like to see if I have trouble keeping up. :jester:
  12. KevinK

    KevinK Member


    I am now one of your devoted fans!
    Seriously your 2 single speed bikes in the pics are just awesome!
    I have a Surly Steamroller fixed gear single speed bike that although is very modern it harkens back to the foundations of our sport.
    When I go over posts on this site I am reminded that "nothing new is under the sun".
    Thanks for the warm welcome....

  13. GearNut

    GearNut Active Member

    Welcome to the forum!
  14. KevinK

    KevinK Member

    If I spot an extra Wisconsin fast women(already used to the cold)I will send them up your way to see if you can keep up.
    Seriously you have a very beautiful state.

  15. KevinK

    KevinK Member


    I was over at the bike shop today and what did I see? A Gary Fisher commuter bike with a 1/1 gearing and an internal Nexus hub on it all for about 500 bucks or so. Full totally cool metal bullet proof fenders on the bike.
    I said to my pal that owns the shop is "all that bike needs now is a good motor" and the look was priceless.
    No front or rear deraillear system. So even Trek is with the program here on commuting. Adding a motor for some of these folks just puts a log jam in there programing. I would suggest organic food and flouride free water for awhile to get your thinking straight. And of course some good beer to flush out the mind control that ya got to have a car...

  16. KevinK

    KevinK Member

    Happy Valley,

    Boy is that a great name. I would like to go to a happy valley right at this very moment. My town got hit buy a Tornado last Monday nite at nine pm. 4 minutes of absolute destruction. Many folks nearly lost there lives yet no one was seriously hurt and we had 30 homes leveled and many hundreds severly damaged.
    The road that I biked on every day used to have a canopy of trees but that is gone and one sees the destruction. Its unnerving and very sad at the same time.
    The great thing about this small town is the people. We are rebuilding as I post this. It is really amazing. But that is driven by the young folks. I am over the hill and just observe and ride my bike.
    Long time cyclist needing a motor? Don't think so dude.
    But put the motor on anyway....
    Really really thanks for the warm welcome to your community I hope I can contribute something positive and fit in.

  17. augidog

    augidog New Member

    kevin, thanks for the email, no way i can keep up with things around here at the moment...the thread has been a great read, feel free to get in touch again whenever you have time...it looks like me might could have us a great time motorvatin' that gary fisher.,,

    welcome to MBc :cool:
  18. KevinK

    KevinK Member


    You seem like top dog around these parts.
    Just looks like the way to go for me with Golden Eagle Bike Engines. I have my reasons after looking around and doing some research to meet my personal needs. Again I must stress that these comments are just my personal newbe uninformed but learning personal opinions!
    That absolutely is no disrespect to any other way to motorize a bike.
    Augi If ya get a chance could you give me an opinion on the 4 stroke RS vs the 33 tanaka engine?
    And to all MB riders be safe out there on the road one of our own WI cyclists was killed on his bike while he was out for a ride.
    Even the media said that this was kind of senseless. And the Po-Po will end up having to charge the young driver with maybe manslaughter. Tragic for both parties really.
    Well weather you motor up or not on your bike please be very careful out on the open roads...

  19. augidog

    augidog New Member

    you have a marvelous "1 4 all & all 4 1" attitude...

    while i appreciate the kudos for my past accomplishments, there are many dawgs 'round here way more "top" than i...you are in good hands with this group.

    safety, yes! strong wheels, real brakes, real helmet, real LIGHTS!! browse the various areas and jump into any topic that catches your eye...looking forward to getting some phone time with you :cool:
  20. Virginian

    Virginian Member

    Welcome to the forum Kevin.

    I am much like you. I am a life-long cyclist who has pedaled about 50,000 miles in my lifetime. And I have and still ride ande enjoy a (not quite) $3000 carbon fiber bike.

    I decided to get a motorized bike because I could no longer do the distances and hills that I used to enjoy. A few months ago I added the GEBE kit to an old mountain bike, and I have ridden it for 2000 miles without any problems whatsoever.

    I love riding the bike! It is so fast! It goes 32-33 mph on the flat and takes hills like they are not even there! It is such an adreneline rush to be able to bike so fast so easily. I always pedal. For me it is just a reflex from a lifetime of pedaling. I enjoy the feeling of being part of the bike and it just seems to me that a bike should be pedaled.

    It should make your 70 mile RT commute easy. I regularly ride 30 to 50 miles without any rest stops and it is really easy. Good luck and enjoy!