Idiots Have Serious Motored Bike Crash in Australia

Discussion in 'General Questions' started by Irish John, Sep 13, 2008.

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  1. Irish John

    Irish John Guest

    On Thursday night near where I live two idiots on motorised bikes ran into each other in town and bust into flames. They were seriously burnt - one moreso than the other - and airlifted to hospital 700 kms away.
    This will definitely attract police attention and will probably result in legislation making our lives more difficult. Both bikes were seized by police and I'll bet the engines will be the 70cc HT ones that do not comply with power rating etc.
    Why they bust into flames probably has a lot to do with those shonky fuel cocks that break like cheese as well as the always leaking petrol tank caps.
    This is really not what we need right now and given that NSW was indeed a police state for it's first 80 years and, in many ways, still is I expect there to be really restrictive legislation about the whole subject of motorised bikes.
    I get asked to build bikes often for people but most of them don't get past the interview stage and get sent packing because I have an aversion to petrol heads and don't want to see them riding motored bicycles.
    Last year we had another idiot just down the road from here who ran into a telegraph pole at about 50 kms\hr and also got a free helicopter ride. I'd seen him a week before and he stank of grog at 9.30AM. These guys are a scourge upon the rest of us. You can read the full story on:

  2. SimpleSimon

    SimpleSimon Active Member

    Yeah, saw that earlier on one of the news sites I peruse. The idiocy displayed by people never ceases to amaze me. My oldest daughter emigrated to Oz a little over a year ago, and lives about 85 km out of Canberra to the northwest. She loves it there.
  3. Mountainman

    Mountainman Active Member

    yes -- that saddens everyone

    hope that they pull through - especially that one guy - sounds like he is torn up !

    it happens so very fast --- as many of us know.

    This will be of NO HELP for the MB cause -- sad...

    I have been trying to promote safety on MBs - reasons such as this - to avoid.

    Happy Riding from - Mountainman
    Last edited: Sep 13, 2008
  4. Simon_A

    Simon_A Member

    Oh great, thats just what we need, idiots spoiling it for all of us.
  5. JemmaUK

    JemmaUK Guest

    Ironically its not the wazzocks who try and recreate that 'pearl harbour' P-40 chicken scene on MB's that are the problem... "for they are gormless and should be cashiered from the gene pool..". I mean if they are that stupid then they deserve everything they get. You'll probably find one of their deeply intellectual mates has put it up on YouTube anyways.

    The problem is the go-gooders and fluffiwits who have suddenly decided that no one should do anything in case someone cuts their finger and there are tears before bedtime... for example, we have a 70mph speed limit (that no-one takes a blind bit of.. except the nerk in the middle lane in the fog who sits at 70mph while everyone else is doing 40mph because thats the speed limit) - because 1 person drove a AC Cobra up the M1 at 140-something and had an intimate meeting with a tree/roadsign/bridge support (delete as applicable)

    It comes to something when a 'health and safety' inspection is mentioned on Star Trek!! although it does come as a pleasant change from Deanna 'did someone weld my face' Troi communing with the force.

    My father showed me how to wire a plug when I was 10 years old... now its illegal for me to do it at work because I havent got a piece of paper to prove that I can do it.. I think its even illegal for me to do it in rented accomodation.. because its not my own home..


    Jemma xx
  6. Bigwheel

    Bigwheel Member

    Wazzocks. Good one.

    The gene pool is shallow on both sides of the pond I see. Unfortunately the effect these events have is not good for those that see things a bit more clearly. I wish you the best of luck!
  7. s_beaudry

    s_beaudry Member

    All the politicians have to do is get the taste in thier mouths just once, and next thing we know, here come the laws for registering and insuring our MB's
  8. sparky

    sparky Active Member

    I really think that riders here at MBc are a couple steps above riders that don't know about this forum. Here, we all learn from each other's mistakes... quite probably preventing a ton of mishaps if we didn't have each other.
  9. Simon_A

    Simon_A Member

    The bit that worries me, is not the story on AOL, it was MSNNBC where they said police forensics have seized that and analysing the bikes.

    Really these 2 should have really just done a better job and got the **** out of the genepool.

    They would have been playing chicken. Probably drunk. Jousting with broom poles. Something ammusing but from our perspective down right stupid.

    There are 2 sorts of MB builder, ones that we see here, responsible people seeking alternative transport, and the others that just want to have a cheap motorbike. We all see them, the sorts that ride trailbikes on the streets, or pocketbikes.

    Here in Oz you have to wear a helmet, and the bike must be road registered. There is a peanut down the road from here that mono's his trailbike, no helmet, up and down the road weaving between cars.

    We all have accidents, but this one sounds like it was just stupidity. The aftereffect is what concerns me now. All it will take is for forensics to suggest that these things arent safe, and they will be banned.
  10. Alaskavan

    Alaskavan Guest

    I'm not too worried about it up here. The people who have motoredbikes here are pretty reasonable. And Alaska has no shortage of ways a person can crash spectacularly. Whether it be snowboarding or skiing off a cliff, walking into a bear or moose on the trail, hitting a snag on the lake when you're doing 90mph on a snow machine, or staying outside too long in the winter. I doubt that a death or three would cause enough of an uproar to get any regulation of adult use of motoredbikes unless there are Very many more of them. We are used to having the riff-raff culled.
  11. Irish John

    Irish John Guest

    Looking at pics of the wreckage I notice that both bikes are Dunlop supermarket bikes with plastic Kenda tyres that I can burst with my teeth - total crud and unsuitable for motorising - the bikes that is not my teeth!. I know cos I've motorised one and it was useless. Those front caliper brakes wouldn't stop the bike even without a motor and, here's the bit that will have the wowsers ecstatic with glee, there is a boost bottle on one and probably on both. I'll bet both were disqualified drivers and were up to some sort of mullarkey but I still think a car was probaby involved.
    They'll probably get slotted if they have DUI records and at least they get to stay at home in Graftom cos that's where the local prison is.
    Here's a picture of the wreckage.

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  12. djase10

    djase10 Guest

    What ever the circumstances behind the collision,

    that is one sad & sorry picture!!
    -(thanks for the pic IrishJohn)

    Fire =that's ugly

    Ride safe boys & girls.
    Regards Jase
  13. Bigwheel

    Bigwheel Member

    A couple of semesters in con college will no doubt season these boys enough so that the next time they will be able to steal a few cars to play chicken with.
  14. That looks more like bicycle art to me than the remains of a crash.
  15. terrence

    terrence Member

    Idiots in every town, state, country. Can't escape them. We can't classify this case until
    all of the facts come in. Maybe it truly was an accident/maybe idiot. Idiot or not i'll say
    a prayer for them both.
  16. wayde

    wayde Guest

    There was a guy in Port colborne Canada That hit some train tracks at a relativly slow speed and he had no helmet on now he's in the hospital with brain damage
  17. wayde

    wayde Guest

  18. BoltsMissing

    BoltsMissing Active Member

    All reports to date have one thing in common, Negligence.
    Sure, we all, or most, go through this "honeymoon" stuff for a month or so when we proudly get on our MB for the first time.
    However, if we look at the numbers, how many out there riding a MB senseibly to work, affordably, at a time of fuel price crisis ?
    Results are, more disposable income due to less hard earnt cash going to greedy oil cartels etc, and that money saved goes back into the local economy, the concept of the MB cannot be written off due to 1 or 2 senseless idiots.

    What needs to be done then ? Some brains-storming;
    Self regulation and that may include those in retail/wholesale to not exploit price for quality, then brakes, quality brakes at a minimum standard for MB's
    For example, do away with alloy brake levers, they can snap at the hinge.
    Ya know ?? back to basics, we are not Spandos, don't need their concept of a lighter bike and all the rest of their standards.
    If we don't do this sort of stuff, then good-night-irene with the stroke of a pen by some statician in beurocracy.
  19. iron_monkey

    iron_monkey Guest

    Not really, people here still want to consistency ride at 50+k/h even when people like me tell them not to.
  20. wayde

    wayde Guest

    BUT the people doing over 50 km/h are doing it safer than those not in the forum. I ride in the fifty range daily cause the limit on the most commonly traveled road is 80 BUT i know to check tighten re check and re tighten after every ride and even before sometimes. I have welded my tensioner to the frame so it doesn't en up in my wheel. i always have a helmet gloves jeans and long sleeves even if it's 30 degrees celcius, i know cars don't think i'm going that fast and besides if i'm gonna get hit in the rear i'd like to be doing a speed as close to the car that hit me as possible to lessen the impact. I never ride on sidewalks or bike trails in my opinion they are for non motored vehicles. I do how ever like to cruse at about 35-40 and take in the sights.