Infraction points extension and trading scheme

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by Fabian, May 21, 2010.

  1. Fabian

    Fabian Well-Known Member

    I'm going to raise a very controversial issue; something that's been on my mind for quite some time.

    How do i start this thread

    Ok, i'll try again - - -

    Right, here we go,

    I want to flag the concept of issuance of infraction points for poor spelling, grammar and punctuation (of which i'm useless at all three) and the proposal to have a running tally of all members infraction points listed by means of a scrollable bar graph.

    There must be reward for those who take pride in presenting the english language in a well crafted manner, and there must be reward for those who want to improve their skills, and also for those who need a good (infraction points) kick in the pants to improve their skills.

    This could be taken one step further by creating an online infraction points trading scheme, where those who run up too many infraction points can purchase (all it takes is a credit card) infraction points from other members at an infraction points stock exchange.
    This will naturally reward those who stay on top of their game and provide the means for speculative trading as new members are actively encouraged to join Motored Bikes to increase the value of the stock exchange; benefiting the website as membership is increased.

    Think about the hive of activity which would be created as members sign in and rush to look at which members are running low on infraction points and do all sorts of back room deals.

    Surely this would be a good thing.


  2. moondog

    moondog Member

    Yet we are such a diverse, colorful group of people that like motoredbikes and computers.

    Some of us are writers too, with skill at throwing words together.

    Then there are some of us that mess up with 3 or 4 letter words. (me) :rolleyes7:
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  3. Fabian

    Fabian Well-Known Member

    Moondog, when it comes to grammar and punctuation, i'm going to have to pay and pay and pay, naturally supporting the infraction trading scheme, but i'm going to be hunting me some spelling infraction points; risking it all with some wildly optimistic speculative trading on the infraction points stock exchange, to make up for my losses :grin5:
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  4. moondog

    moondog Member

    I must admit I like the way you guys from down under throw words together.

    I like the slang too. :cool:
  5. Fabian

    Fabian Well-Known Member

    I'm about as useless as a one armed wall paperer, when it comes to throwing words together.
    The only thing that saves me is my dry sense of humor :rolleye2s:

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  6. Skyliner70cc

    Skyliner70cc Active Member

    dis klosily sonds like karbin kredat skeme cooked up bi Al Gore ecscept fur poor speling.

    I dunt hav er problim wiff sumething like dis as long as it stops poore spellars. BTW, I kan't stand folkz hoo yews text jargon wen writing.
  7. SimpleSimon

    SimpleSimon Active Member

    Institutionalizing grammar nazi's? Wewll, I can think of an institution or three they'd fit in, but not running the show.

    I feel quite free to make the comment above, because I am just such a person. Should the board elect to implement some such scheme, I shall insist that the only acceptable authority for spelling be the American Standard Encyclopedic Dictionary - all 31 volumes of it.

    Would you care for a zarf for your cup, perhaps?
  8. give me vtec

    give me vtec Active Member

    only a socialist would suggest a grammar gestapo...
  9. Zev0

    Zev0 Member

    Plus we do have posters from lots of non-english speaking countries. That would hardly be fair to them. All in all, it's a very VERY stupid idea, but based on whom it comes from..............................
  10. graucho

    graucho Active Member

    私は日本語のすべてを掲示する。 それからだれもそれが正しいまたはないかどうか言うことができない。 LOL

    Translated... I'll post everything in Japanese. Then nobody can tell if it's correct or not. LOL
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  11. Fabian

    Fabian Well-Known Member

    Simple Simon,

    You've got to be dreaming if you think the infraction points extension and trading scheme is going to be based around some concept of alternative english, like American english.

    American english = infraction points by the infraction gestapo.
    I refuse to use z's in the place of where s's reign supreme!

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  12. GearNut

    GearNut Active Member

    I come to this awesome site to learn and grow in the world of Motored Bicycles.
    I like to help others when I can. I enjoy hearing about other folk's successes, and I feel for the ones that share their failures.
    I believe that these are pretty much the founding reasons that this site was created in the first place.
    That said, where in the heck does a grammar gestapo fit into all of this?
    For cry'n out loud!!!!!
    The last thing this place needs is a way for others to get embarrassed or feel belittled by their grasp on the English language!!! FWIW: The English language is known as one of the hardest to learn!
    Everyone here is here for the enjoyment of Motored Bicycles. The thought of being looked down apon and scrutinized for their spelling does not sound like enjoyment to me!
    Judge Dread?
  13. Fabian

    Fabian Well-Known Member

    Hi Gearnut, i agree with you, and i embarrass and belittle myself every day with my less than perfect grasp of American english; also completely agree with you that American english is impossible to learn, that's why i'm pushing for British english to be the control standard for infraction orders :grin5:

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  14. Fabian

    Fabian Well-Known Member

    There should also be infraction orders awarded for lack of correct capitalisation of the word "English".

  15. GearNut

    GearNut Active Member

    This is a BAD thing!
    Do not pursue a Grammar Gestapo on this site!!!!
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  16. machiasmort

    machiasmort Active Member

    I want the “lyrical gangsta” award, like I really care what anybody here thinks of my grammar. So long as I get my point across when helping people out with mechanical problems, that’s all that matters…

    I think you guy’s are just out to make Tom’s life miserable! LOL!
  17. SimpleSimon

    SimpleSimon Active Member

    Well, Fabian, I look at it this way - there are roughly 300 million native english speakers acclimated to American spelling and grammatical construction foibles, whereas there are perhaps 100 million similarly proficient in the queen's english.

    Majority rules.

    As for capitalizing the word english, I'll decline, just as I do with spanish, danish, swedish, german, portugese, japanese, etc.

    Seriously, this thread is a fine joke. As a serious proposal, it's like my g'pappy used to say; "That dog won't hunt, son."
  18. KilroyCD

    KilroyCD Active Member

    Are you nuts? :grin5:
    Just reading that made my head hurt!
  19. Fabian

    Fabian Well-Known Member

    Ok, so it's a done deal.
    It's obvious that the majority of people are with me on this (based on a proportional representation system of ones home country population) and we need to move ahead and begin rollout and implementation of the new infraction points extension and trading scheme.

    So now i have to ask the moderators to look into (and list) the appropriate penalties and categorisation of a large range of offences, including infraction points for being in disagreement with anyone who disagrees with the infraction points extension and trading scheme.
    This is required to calculate a startup valuation for the infraction trading scheme, stock exchange.

    Another thing,
    There needs to be a name and shame wall of the worst offenders so it's easier for members to scrutinise those offenders at 'sign-in' and make hurry to engage in backroom deals.
    There also needs to be a wall for those making successful enterprise out of the infraction stock exchange; possibly a listing of the top 10 performers. An added feature could be to incorporate a sports-bet arrangement that allows people to make astute betting decisions on when a top performing member will loose their No 1 ranking.

    And another thing,
    There needs to be infraction points awarded to those who persist with contractional spelling of the British language; something that all Americans should deal with, and if they don't like it, they can just build a bridge and get over it, after suitable infraction points have been awarded.

    Through the vast amount of PM's i'm receiving (even if some PM's have proven to be unkind, with caustic language, laced with profanity), i know i have everyones support on this most important and desperately needed infraction points system.

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  20. KilroyCD

    KilroyCD Active Member

    Absolutely not a done deal!

    I've had a little time to digest this and I can tell you why this scheme would likely not work.
    First of all, only a few people have responded to this, and not all were in favor. If the entire membership voted on this I feel we would see a decided swing towards a negative bias. Let me tell you why.

    Where I work I had been branded the "Spelling (and/or) Grammar Nazi." I used to feel that people would appreciate being told how to say or spell something the correct way if they had made an error. On the contrary, most resented it. Many felt (despite all tactfulness on my part) that the "Spelling / Grammar Nazi" was showing off his (allegedly) superior intelligence. Heck, if I had superior intelligence I wouldn't be working where I work. Needless to say, I gave up correcting people's spelling or grammar.
    The same thing is likely to happen here if we start policing threads for spelling or grammar.
    Another reason it likely wouldn't work here is that we do have a number of members for whom English is a second language. To "gig" them for grammatical or spelling errors would hardly be fair.
    The last reason it would not work is in order to implement the scheme we would need a slew of moderators who are more than just conversant with the English language. I for one cannot spend all of my free time online reading every thread, every post looking for errors. I'm sure the rest of the moderation staff would feel the same way. Also, some of the moderation staff might not feel comfortable policing grammar or spelling. We're here to take care of things, but not here to be school teachers.
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