Yeah, I get most are lazy, I don't know how the waistlines in SA have expanded, but in the states WOW!To the build, I'm a miniority, but I like all my gears, I like pushing on the pedals, it considerably increases your MPG pushing and assisting through the whole power range.I'll stick with the GEBE's, they're better centered, ride high (lower than butt) out of harms way, and light as you can get.