legal in the united kingdom ??

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adam27

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hi all im new so hello and im from the uk:D . i need to no weather mb are legal in the uk or not , i recently heard that they were but before i start planning and buying bits for my project i would like to no that they are 100% legal or not as the case may be. cheers adam
 


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turbo/chaos

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well from the way things look anything seems legal in the uk man but all you can do is ask the police and see if they look at you funny and ask kawhat is that then go to the next one and the next untill no more or make it esay if you have it ther call the dmv and see whats up
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azbill

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I don't think he knows :(
I got a headache trying to decypher what he said :rolleyes:
 
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adam27

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not the only one lol come on guys i need an answer so i can get this project started :(
 
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turbo/chaos

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here try this motorized bicycle in the uk and see what you get man
 
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adam27

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ye i tried that all the laws i found are about electric bikes
 
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colinc

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Hi,

am not an authority, so feel free to check further but I think that you will find that in the UK a bike (or scooter) with an ic engine is legally a motorcycle so you need a licence, insurance and to pay vehicle excise duty. At the lower end you can keep it to less than or 50cc, max speed 30mph and a few other criteria and register it as a moped in which case it can be ridden at 16. The rider will need to pass a CBT test too. The bike will also need an annual MOT test.

THis is why things like motorised scooters are confiscated by the cops if used on public road/pavements.

Also, any modified bike will need to pass an SVA (Single Vehicle Approval) test at the local goods vehicle testing station before it can be licenced. All in all a minefield of legislation to keep what would only be a few bikes off the road.

There's a good link here that may be of interest: http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~pattle/nacc/arc0497.htm

Now you could convert a bike to electric, that's legal for over 14's. No tax insurance or test but you are limited to 200 watts rated power (250 watts in more normal in Europe and I think you'd talk your way out of that if pressed). However that isn't a lot of power.

However, an avenue that you might want to explore is something I am contemplating; returning a defunct Autocycle to the road. I have aquired a frame for a 1950's New Hudson Autocycle off Ebay for the princely sum of £15. It will be rebuilt using mainly more modern parts such as brakes and wheels for safety and reliability but will in essence be a restoration. The vehicle identity travels with the frame so it should be possible to get an age related plate for it. The bike should be re-registerable with the DVLA and so avoids the complication of the SVA test that goes with a new build. Hopefully it also classes as an historic vehicle so qualifies for free road tax (VED). One complication is that I would need to get it classed a s moped - originally it would have had a 100cc Villiers engine which makes it a motorcycle. An annual MOT test and insurance would still apply. A moped licence would be ok - I'm lucky as I passed my test in the days when they gave you right that with a car licence, today you have to do a CBT and pass a test.

The idea sprung from here: http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~pattle/nacc/arc0548.htm

I hope that this is useful. As I said, I don't regard myself as an authority on this subject but like you am interested in persuing the idea and would be pleased to know what anyone else thinks.

How old are you? This has quite a bearing.

regards

Colin
 
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thatsdax

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If Bicycles are not illegal yet in the Uk.. What I would do is....

I would hit the kill switch on my bike and start pedaling. Then..What can they do? It is a bicycle !!!
 
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JemmaUK

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I would hit the kill switch on my bike and start pedaling. Then..What can they do? It is a bicycle !!!
My method exactly... the thing that gets me is you can be silly and get insurance and MOT and everything else for something that you can pedal at the same speeds for a time (if you are fairly fit) as you would cruise with a cyclemotor. I would understand it if you'd bolted on a 5 cylinder 10hp radial or something like that and could do 70mph... but 25mph, I mean really!

Its a little bit of pain on mine - the only way I could get the kill to work was mount it under the saddle - I wondered why I got electric shocks till I realised the rubber shock mount on the handlebars was an insulator lol
-kzzeerrrttt-

Jemma xx
 
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