Long Range,very Reliable,quiet And Comfortable

Discussion in 'Motorized Recumbents' started by Will Snow, Dec 9, 2009.

  1. Will Snow

    Will Snow Member

    I used a Tour Easy recumbent, which is a fine bike but recumbents are not for everbody.

    I mounted a 4 cycle subaru engine under the seat, ran a chain to a free wheeling front sprocket So the peddles will not turn while the motor is powering the bike, and yet I can peddle when I need to. Then the front sprocket drives the chain going to the rear 9 speed sprocket.

    The results are: Will go from a standing srart with no peddling up a fairly steep incline. On the level in 4th or 5th gear at 25 mph the engine turns over at a comfortable, easy rpm and good tork to increase speed.

    The engine being down low under the seat make the engine noise very low and bike handling is same as with no engine with no feeling of vibration.

    The low gear feels like it will climb a telephone pole. Because the engine is new I only took it up to 25 mph but feel it will go to much higher speeds without over working the engine.

    Being a quality long wheelbase recumbent the ride is very smooth and the whole bike and motor can be picked up very easly with no strain.

    I have only taken it on a couple of test rides about 20 minutes each and I feel this is an excellent commute bike or just going for a long ride on a nice day. Hills are no problem and a long trip on level ground at a pretty good clip is easy to attain. Reliability also should be top notch, everything from the engine and mount system is good quality, along with the drive train. Its automatic and a very simple system overall. I am wondering what the gas milage will be. should be pretty good.

    I must be really on the dumb side when it comes to this computer. I tried to post pictures for a couple of evenings with no luck. I even read the directions on this forum and still could not do it. Will try again later after I pull myself together. I would like everyone to see how simple this is and how neat it works. A few years ago I posted some pictures on this forum of my Black Phantom Whizzer and others, But now I don't know what I'm doing wrong. Sorry, maybe I can do better next time.

    Best Regards

    Bill Snow


    Jerry, The Scooter Guy Is where I got a lot of the mounting parts and ideas. This guy is very good to deal with and also a big help.

  2. AussieJester

    AussieJester Member

  3. Turtle Tedd

    Turtle Tedd Member

    Will ..I am in the same boat you are when it comes to posting pictures...directions for posting use terminology that is unfamiliar to us old dudes.....my ride is not that special so I don't want to take the time to figure it out....I did learn how to send pics to e mail address.........I would definitely like to see some pics of your bike..for sure..pm me if you want for my e mail address
  4. Turtle Tedd

    Turtle Tedd Member

    Whoa...The Aussie is on ..maybe for the Turtle also????
  5. AussieJester

    AussieJester Member

    Yup send away takes me like 20 seconds to upload and post pics, give me the link to the thread you want the pics posted on too :)


    p.s nearly beer oclock in OZland 3pm

    EDIT: Correction :: twsist top off beer:: it IS beer oclcok in OZLand...Italian sausage Danish cheese Spanish olives and cracker time too!
    Last edited: Dec 10, 2009
  6. AussieJester

    AussieJester Member

    Here you go Wil





    Nice ride mate well done!

  7. AussieSteve

    AussieSteve Active Member

    Yep, I agree. Love the seat. That's what I need.
    Those chains are set up really well, too - good job.
    And Kim, well done for helping out.
    ... Steve
    Last edited: Dec 10, 2009
  8. Alaskavan

    Alaskavan Guest

    Yep. That should be a good reliable commuter. Good work.
  9. Nice build. I'd like to try a recumbent someday. A touring guy I met at the laundromat says they are the only way to go long distance on.
  10. kerf

    kerf Guest

    It sure looks neat and comfortable too. After and hour on my mountain bike, I usually hurt all over.
  11. thescooterguy

    thescooterguy Member

    very nice bill

    i was a bit worried about this build but it looks like it turned out great bill
  12. ibdennyak

    ibdennyak Guest

    Nice.....I like the chain guide tube....gonna have to steal that idea for my tadpole. :whistling:
  13. Will Snow

    Will Snow Member

    Thank you for the nice comments.

    I was able to put a couple of pictures in the photo gallery of the bike now that it is finished. I did things a little backwards, there are two posting.

    1. The picture that AUSSIEJESTER listed here come up first on the gallery.

    2. Scroll down a few postings the you will come to the finished bicycle.

    Turtle Tedd

    Slowly getting the pictures figured out again. It's really not difficult once you get the hang of it
  14. DougC

    DougC Guest

    I bought a Golden Eagle belt-drive kit and the first bike I mounted it on was a RANS Fusion--not a recumbent exactly, but somewhat similar in that you sit in the seat all the time. You can stand on the pedals and coast with some effort, but (because of the way the frame is built) pedaling while standing isn't really practical at all. (-I do have a LWB also; it is wonderfully comfortable to ride but I never tried to put the engine on it... I kept it for pedaling only-)

    My normal cruising speed (pedaling, with no engine!) is around 15 MPH starting out, and drops to around 10 MPH at 75+ miles. One problem I found was that I tended to hit bumps pretty hard with the engine going, because I could go 27 MPH almost all the time. The frame had no rear suspension. There was no practical way to add it, and it seemed like the frame took a LOT of harder hits than it did when I rode it before, without the engine. The hits didn't really bother me much, but I wondered how long the frame would take that kind of abuse. I eventually took the engine kit off that bike for a few reasons, one of which was the lack of suspension.

    I probably could have added suspended forks, but most of the weight was on the rear wheel, and there was no way practical to add any kind of rear suspension easily. Suspending my own weight (with a sprung seat of some kind) would have helped a lot--but the bike uses a non-standard type of seatpost and seat attachment method, so no shock-seatpost would fit.

    This is one practical problem with motorizing recumbents (and similar "sit-down" bikes. On a regular upright bike, if you see a big bump coming ahead, you can momentarily stand up on the pedals and your legs work as "shock absorbers" for your body weight, and that takes a lot of stress off the frame as it hits bigger bumps. On a un-suspended recumbent bike, there's really no way to do that, so the frame takes the full brunt of the hit.

    Full-suspended recumbents mostly cost major dollars; there really are no inexpensive ones. If I was building a recumbent frame for motorization though, I would definitely put real suspension on the rear, and possibly use some suspended forks on the front also.
  15. thescooterguy

    thescooterguy Member

    i have a motorized tadpole came with high preasure tubes and tires , hit every bump and felt them too , befor my trip to boise from portland i switched them out for something fatter and softer really helped the ride
  16. Alaskavan

    Alaskavan Guest

    I run Schwalbe Big Apples. I've been known to do over 200 miles in a day. Nice trike.
  17. thescooterguy

    thescooterguy Member

    200 miles a day

    20o miles , wew thats a few hours of riding , at least 8 hours
  18. Will Snow

    Will Snow Member

    I understand what you are saying about broken frames. I have seen a couple mountian bikes with broken frames where the forks connect. another fellow had his break by the crank hub. A while back the Rans company had a recall on a certain recumbent due to the front forks breaking.

    I feel that in part, the quality of the bike comes into play and how it is is treated. Another thing is the riders weight. You match a 300 pound fellow againist 150 pounder, I'm sure the bike is going to know the difference.

    The Tour Easy is a very good quality bike. It is not uncommon for riders of these bikes to take 2000, 3000 mile trips with the bike loaded to the hilt with baggage both front and back and no motor. One fellow on this long down hill grade was really clipping along, maybe 45 mph ???, some of these guys in good shape can really move along ( I'm not one of them ).

    My speed is usually between 15-20 mph (with a motor). When I get out in a open smooth road I may open it up to 30-35 depending on the bike, but even then I stay closer to 20-22 mph most of the time. I have one motorized bike that will do nearly 70 mph but even with that I don't go much over 40 mph and only for a short time at that.

    Even considering all the above, the best of the bikes could break and you make a good point , It is somthing that should be watched by inspecting the frame closely for any signs of cracking. Even at 10-15 mph, that pavement hurts.

    Thank you for bringing up the subject, I'll keep a check on my bike.
  19. atombikes

    atombikes Member

    Walmart now sells a rear suspension recumbent bike for less than $300! It is called the Hyper Insight.


    I suppose you could easily add a front suspension fork to this bike and have full suspension for less than $450?
  20. bamabikeguy

    bamabikeguy Active Member

    Hey AB,

    Linking to your WalMart buy, here's the pic.


    I read the 3 product reviews from customers, and the bike look likes a spur of the moment bargain, where the engineering isn't "great", but acceptable for limited expectations.

    In other words, it's generic, and the customers mentioned things like "assembly required" and "parts missing", a deadly combo for some folks.

    This bike wouldn't work for a GEBE setup, because of the 20" wheels. Plus, I was told to look for a steel or alloy frame, and the WMart description says this bike is aluminum.


    However, the next step up the pricing ladder, at $800 seems to be THIS, imho:



    Since I'm in photoshop, I uploaded thatDay 6 Dream 21, that the boys from Oxford bought, it has a 26" wheel on the back. (For a GEBE kit, this requires side straps instead of the front strap.)

    The seat on this bike is superior to mine on the SunEZ Sport. You can't tell from the picture, but dangling off the back of the seat is a multi-pouched carrybag. Very handy.