Motorkote is good stuff

[george_n_texas]

Sorry for the long post...

I put this stuff in a Peterbuilt with a cat 475 hp diesel engine...made the pyrometer (Turbo temp guage) go way down. I put some in a '90 chevy van and heard the engine get quieter as I poured it in. I also put some in a 2005 650 Suzuki Boulevard S40 which is 1 cylinder scream take-off but low high end very high revving engine. This bike went from not being able to see what was behind you in the mirror to instantly being able to discern if a cop was behind you. I guarantee you if this stuff was not great you would see bad reviews as it goes for $30 a quart. They reccomend in addition to your oil mix adding 2 oz per gallon. This stuff DOES NOT mix with oil or fuel it bonds to metal. I would not use it more than 1 tank at a time as it lasts 4 oil changes in a car! I would also put it on my chain, gears and bearings...it would only take a few drops to do the whole bike. I just got mine in today and my engine no longer sounds like a weed eater sounds more like a scooter. I have a 48cc grubee-2 smoker.

I wouldn't recommend this stuff in your engine till it's been broke in.

This is from their add:
Product Features

* MOTORKOTE is a pure synthetic engine additive concentrate containing no solids, moly, teflon, or graphite
* MK is formulated for heavy-duty use in gas or diesel hard working engines and other mechanical devices
* It molecularly coats metal surfaces with added lubrication protection reducing friction, heat and wear on critical moving parts

This stuff is not to replace the oil you mix with the fuel it coats and bonds to the metal...when you add this stuff to a car engine the oil level does not go up after running the engine...it prevents dry starts it lasts thru 2 oil changes in a big truck (that's minimum 30,000 miles folks)
I will not be adding any more of this stuff to my engine for quite some time I am sure. I might have spent $5 to treat the whole bike, engine, bearings, cables and chains.

Heres some questions and answers from their web site...as expensive as this stuff is you would see negative reports on it if you googled it I haven't seen one yet.

Q: How does MOTORKOTE Hyper Lubricant work?
A: MOTORKOTE bonds to metal, creating a HYPER LUBRICATING metal-to-metal contact. This reduces friction, heat and engine wear.

* Horsepower increases of 10% are common within 1 month of use.
* Gas mileage may increase 5-15% during this same period.
* Damage from cold starts is significantly reduced.

Q: Why doesn't MOTORKOTE Hyper Lubricant void my warranty like some oil additives?
A: Unlike Lucas Oil, Prolong, and Slick 50, MOTORKOTE doesn't mix with oil. This means that oil viscosity, antifoaming, and other oil properties are not affected. MOTORKOTE is Safe and Effective.
Q: How do I use MOTORKOTE Hyper Lubricant?
A: MOTORKOTE should be used in all gasoline and diesel engines. Pour using the diagram below.
Engine The Pour When
4 cylinder 8 ounces Every 4th Oil change
6 cylinder 12 ounces Every 4th Oil change
8 cylinder and up 16 ounces Every 4th Oil change
Q: When can I use MOTORKOTE Hyper Lubricant?
A: The best time to use MOTORKOTE is with your next oil change, but you can add anytime.
Q: Why is MOTORKOTE Hyper Lubricant more expensive than some other additives?
A: Mostly because it's better. It also doesn't need to be added as often.



How Much Do I Use

Typical Hyper Lubricant/Engine Treatment Applications

Engines
2 Ounces per quart of oil in the crankcase
Typical big rigs add 88 ounces. Add 3 ounces per quart of oil in heavy duty or racing applications.
Transmissions
1 ounce per quart of fluid in automatic or manual transmissions.
Differentials
1 Ounce per quart of gear lube.
Power Steering
1 Ounce per quart of fluid.
Transfer Case
2 to 4 Ounces per vehicle.
Drive Shafts
1 Ounce for chains, apply lightly or soak.
Grease
1 ounce per tube (Typical tube is 14oz.). Add 32 ounces in 55 gal. keg
Hydraulics
1 Ounce per quart of fluid.
Small Oil Injected Engines
4 Ounces in the oil side.
Liquid Cooled
1 Ounce per quart of oil.
Four Stroke
Air cooled, 2 Ounces per Qt.
Two Stroke
2 Ounces per gallon after pre-mixing with 2 stroke oil.
Engines with By-Pass Filtration
Initial treatment: add 2 ounces per quart of total oil volume. (1 Gallon)
Replenish when changing filters with 1 quart of Hyper Lubricant.

 

[arceeguy]

I am highly skeptical of any miracle oil treatment, especially the ones that claim they "bond to metal" or "soak into the pores" of metal. I have run cars well over 200K miles with conventional motor oil, and oil change intervals of 10,000 miles. In all cases, the cars were sold off or scrapped for reasons other than engine failure. I'm one of those guys that doesn't buy into the 3,000 mile oil change myth either. I don't believe that frequent oil changes or oil additives are worth the "insurance" that they give. Placebo effect for sure, but no real gains in longevity or performance. Our fleet manager where I work has shown me the reality with oil tests that show that many cars can easily go 10K miles without any special filters, oil, or care. One of the cars I drove, a lowly Ford Escort had 250K miles on the clock and was sold because the company didn't want to replace the suspension struts on a vehicle that old and with that many miles. The engine still ran like a champ! Other cars (like certain Toyotas) need to have their oil changed more frequently because of poor engineering that results in oil sludge.

 

[george_n_texas]

I hear ya and I know it sounds like snake oil...if I hadn't seen results I wouldn't have bought another quart. What I can say for sure that it does is quiet the engine way down...it no longer sounds like a weed eater. It also takes away a lot of vibration. It does not seem to bog down as much even at a very slow speed uphill the engine woulda died before. I did not see fuel economy increase on the big truck I used it on but the turbo temp went down quite a bit. Peterbuilt truck I drove had a pyrometer. Funny you mention it I had a '90 Ford Escort 0% interest 0 down was one of the most economical cars I ever owned. My wife had a fender bender and the fender was bolt on cost me $25 at the bone yard we made $1000 off that deal.

I had a 2005 Suzuki boulevard 650 barely broke in that had vibration so bad you could barely see in the mirror if there was a car behind you...I put a couple of ounces of MK in and you could then tell if a cop was behind you. I do not know if it got better fuel economy nor if it lasted longer this was about the time I lost home car ect. I know they can do most anything with a camera but the infomercial I saw showed the old hang weights on a lever bearing thingy and they had to grind the metal to get the slick off. It does bond to metal it does not raise the oil level on a dipstick after running has to be somewhere. Norman's gonna try the stuff I hope he don't come rough me up if it don't work LOL!

One other thing to consider it'll cost $26 for a quart (half quart is $20) but you will only use maybe $5 worth to treat everything on the bike...cables...gears...chain...engine...don't put any on your seat you will slide off LOL

 

[motorpsycho]

additives are not the way to go when it comes to engine oils.
If additives were so good, all new cars would come with them already in the crankcase. New car manufacturers would reccomend that fuel and oil additives be used all the time from the time the car is brand new.
changing your engine oil and filter as well as replaceing your fuel filter and air filter at regular intervals will make your engine run for a LONG time.
additives are for the people who do not know what preventative maintanance means. when they can't figure out why their engine is making noise at 100,000 miles they toss a can of oil additive in to try and fix the problem.

i used to work at a frieghtliner dealership and we serviced cats, cummins, detroits and mercedes benz engines. any time someone requested that a bottle of lucas (or any other additive) be added to their engine oil, their warranty would go out the window(if the engine was still under warranty that is).
I've seen and heard it all about oil and fuel additives, and i don't buy any of the claims.

just my opinion on the subject.

 

[george_n_texas]

additives are not the way to go when it comes to engine oils.
If additives were so good, all new cars would come with them already in the crankcase. New car manufacturers would reccomend that fuel and oil additives be used all the time from the time the car is brand new.
changing your engine oil and filter as well as replaceing your fuel filter and air filter at regular intervals will make your engine run for a LONG time.
additives are for the people who do not know what preventative maintanance means. when they can't figure out why their engine is making noise at 100,000 miles they toss a can of oil additive in to try and fix the problem.

i used to work at a frieghtliner dealership and we serviced cats, cummins, detroits and mercedes benz engines. any time someone requested that a bottle of lucas (or any other additive) be added to their engine oil, their warranty would go out the window(if the engine was still under warranty that is).
I've seen and heard it all about oil and fuel additives, and i don't buy any of the claims.

just my opinion on the subject.

So you trust the new car manufacturers we all just bailed out to help you not have to buy another overpriced car from them eh?
I'm just sayin...

I have heard and witnessed all sorts of voiding warranties on big trucks that are ludicrous as the sign saying our insurance doesn't cover you in our shop...they don't want you in their shop so you can't see the daily screw ups mechanics do. It's got to be wrong on one side or the other the Lucas says right on the label it does not void warranty so does motorkote now I haven't read the warranty on a freight shaker say any of the above. I could be wrong but I do remember if I had an engine problem it went to detroit or whatever the engine brand was not the dealership the dealership might tell them but they sure as heck weren't the ones deciding warranty issues.

Just my opinion on the matter. My results from using MK were observation however.

 

[arceeguy]

Oil and fuel additives discussions often spawn little fights. Everyone has their own opinion on them. I just fail to see how an oil additive can affect the balance of an engines rotating parts and reduce vibration at all. I am also not a metallurgist, but I fail to see how an oil treatment can bond itself to metal parts, or "soak into" the micro pores enough to make any difference above and beyond good old oil. The companies that make "dura lube" and "slick 50" have had to settle with the FTC on unsubstantiated claims about their products. Take a close look at how oil additive companies word their product description and the disclaimers following clebrity endorsements, etc. I am sure that you are doing your engines no harm, so to each his own I suppose.

 

[george_n_texas]

I don't know why anyone gets in such a huff every time someone thinks what they are doing works. I am only reporting my results I am not making any longevity claims nor fuel miliage boost claims nor do I profit from MK sales. Everyone that has seen me on my MB has comented how much quieter it is. This stuff is not an oil additive else you would have to keep putting it in.

 

[arceeguy]

I don't know why anyone gets in such a huff every time someone thinks what they are doing works. I am only reporting my results I am not making any longevity claims nor fuel miliage boost claims nor do I profit from MK sales. Everyone that has seen me on my MB has comented how much quieter it is. This stuff is not an oil additive else you would have to keep putting it in.

George - nobody is in a huff here. Just offering an opinion on oil treatments.

Search this site for "sea foam" and other additives and you'll see what I mean about discussion turning into fights.

Over and out.

 

[george_n_texas]

Any time I hear the inclusive word ALL bells go off. When someone says ALL oil additives are junk this means to me that they think no new additive can be made that is any good...pretty closed minded.

I bought those platinum split tipped spark plugs years ago made quite a difference in my Suburu didn't do a thing for my Chevy van with a 350 engine.

 

[arceeguy]

Any time I hear the inclusive word ALL bells go off. When someone says ALL oil additives are junk this means to me that they think no new additive can be made that is any good...pretty closed minded.

George, motorkote is not a new additive, it has been around for years. It is produced by the same company that markets Duralube. Hmmmmmmmm......

Also, I didn't say that ALL additives are junk. I have used products to help oil consumption (STP, etc.) an products to clean clogged hydraulic lifters (Rislone, etc.). These products don't claim miracles. STP is simply a super thick oil that raises the viscosity of your motor oil so it doesn't slip by worn rings and valve guides as easily - so your clunker consumes less oil. Rislone is a mild solvent that cleans sludged up lifters when you buy a used car that wasn't maintained very well. lol

I did say that I am skeptical of any additive that claims to "instantly bond to metal", etc. and so on. If you want to continue to use motorkote, have at it.