New 32 tooth sprocket limiting rpm

[KCvale]

I have a offset coming..

Do you have some meat balls and tomato sauce coming for your 'spaghetti cabling' job too?

It's just not that hard to size cables.

 

[rysk29]

Do you have some meat balls and tomato sauce coming for your 'spaghetti cabling' job too?

It's just not that hard to size cables.

NA. But I do have some Parmesan I haven't done that yet.. It wasn't real high on my to do list

 

[DuctTapedGoat]

It's true, unfortunately. I have no idea where the 49cc myth started, but it's not written anywhere in California law. If you at least get the plate ($21?) and wear a DOT helmet, it would probably greatly reduce the chance of cops messing with you.

CVC 4020
A MOTORIZED BICYCLE IS EXEMPT FROM REGISTRATION

CVC 24016:B:3
NO LICENSE; NO REGISTRATION

California Law

No need to carry more information than that, if cops wants to know more about the surrounding laws they should research that on their own time.

I haven't had any issues.

 

[KCvale]

NA. But I do have some Parmesan
I haven't done that yet.. It wasn't real high on my to do list

Hehhe, Parmesan is a great topping for spaghetti ;-}
I understand, make it function first, make it pretty after, I just do cabling as I go ;-}

 

[Frankenstein]

Hehhe, Parmesan is a great topping for spaghetti ;-}
I understand, make it function first, make it pretty after, I just do cabling as I go ;-}

Why make it pretty when you can make it look like a tasty pile of greasy spaghetti.

 

[CrazyDan]

Tasty pile of greasy spaghetti...mmmmmmm.

 

[motorizedbikeguy]

CVC 24016:B:3
NO LICENSE; NO REGISTRATION

Read what it says:
"A motorized bicycle described in subdivision (b) of Section 406 shall meet the following criteria:".
and
"All of the following apply to a motorized bicycle described in subdivision (b) of Section 406:"

406 (B) describes an electric bike, 406 (A) describes a motorized bicycle \ moped.
http://codes.findlaw.com/ca/vehicle-code/veh-sect-406.html
https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/motorcycles/motorcycles

No need to carry more information than that, if cops wants to know more about the surrounding laws they should research that on their own time.

Better hope they don't know the difference between an electric bike and a gas bike.

Seriously, just read the motorcycle handbook. There's no ambiguity about licensing.
https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/wcm/connect/af13374c-aa57-4f2b-9ac9-aa3fdc419cc9/dl665.pdf?MOD=AJPERES

 

[DuctTapedGoat]

Read what it says:
"A motorized bicycle described in subdivision (b) of Section 406 shall meet the following criteria:".
and
"All of the following apply to a motorized bicycle described in subdivision (b) of Section 406:"

406 (B) describes an electric bike, 406 (A) describes a motorized bicycle \ moped.
http://codes.findlaw.com/ca/vehicle-code/veh-sect-406.html
https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/motorcycles/motorcycles


Better hope they don't know the difference between an electric bike and a gas bike.

Seriously, just read the motorcycle handbook. There's no ambiguity about licensing.
https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/wcm/connect/af13374c-aa57-4f2b-9ac9-aa3fdc419cc9/dl665.pdf?MOD=AJPERES

Cvc 4020
A motorized bicycle operated upon a highway is exempt from registration.

Sorry dude, MOPEDS have a VIN.
Bicycles do not.

These aren't motor driven cycles or mopeds nor are they anywhere in the same DOT class.

 

[motorizedbikeguy]

These aren't motor driven cycles or mopeds nor are they anywhere in the same DOT class.

The only "evidence" you've provided is a vehicle code for electric bikes. Which line of 406 (a) exempts china girls from being a motorized bicycle and needing an M2? Other than the rental clause for motorized bikes, the ONLY exemption when it comes to a bicycle with a motor on it is electric. Everything else is considered either a motorized bicycle\moped (m2), a motor driven cycle (m1) or a motorcycle (m1). That's it. There's nothing less than that when it comes to gas bikes in California.

406 (a)
A “motorized bicycle” or “moped” is a two-wheeled or three-wheeled device having fully operative pedals for propulsion by human power, or having no pedals if powered solely by electrical energy, and an automatic transmission and a motor that produces less than 4 gross brake horsepower and is capable of propelling the device at a maximum speed of not more than 30 miles per hour on level ground.

From the motorcycle handbook:https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/wcm/connect/af13374c-aa57-4f2b-9ac9-aa3fdc419cc9/dl665.pdf?MOD=AJPERES

A motorized bicycle or moped is
a two-or three-wheeled device,
capable of no more than 30 miles
per hour (mph) on level ground,
and equipped with:
• Fully operative pedals for
human propulsion.
• A motor producing less than
four gross brake horsepower
and an automatic transmission.
• No pedals if powered solely
by electrical energy (CVC
§406(a)).

M2—You may operate
any motorized bicycle, moped,
or motorized scooter.

From: https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?lawCode=VEH&sectionNum=12804.9.

(5) (A) Class M2 includes the following:
(i) A motorized bicycle or moped, or a bicycle with an attached motor, except an electric bicycle as described in subdivision (a) of Section 312.5.

VC:5030 - http://codes.findlaw.com/ca/vehicle-code/veh-sect-5030.html
A motorized bicycle, as defined in Section 406, is required to display a special license plate issued by the department.

https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/pubs/plates/specialplates
This permanent plate is mandatory on motorized bicycles


Where do you see an m2 or plate exemption for chinagirls? Whether or not you need an m2 to operate a motorized bicycle is even a question in the knowledge test.. If you want to learn more about this subject, check out the dedicated thread: https://motoredbikes.com/threads/california-motorized-bicycle-law.37638/

 

[Frankenstein]

Well I'm not in California or plan on lawyering in California, but the link to the plate info is kinda wrapping it all up in my opinion. The form specifically says "motorized bicycle" and I'm assuming all the links and pages are as updated as they can be. Looking at the top of this forum in the banner it gets laid out pretty clearly what our hobby and products of our hobby are: motorized bicycles.

Want to say a motorized bicycle isn't a moped only works until "the man" just goes out and plainly calls a motorized bicycle a moped all in the same sentence on the same official form, especially when they make it easy and give you 4 simple yes or no questions that either definitely do or do not place your vehicle in that category.

Suck it up at least they made getting a plate easy enough to get a plate, if you aren't a registered dealer/manufacturer then you're going to have some difficulty acquiring VIN's to just stick all willy nilly on whatever object you claim is a moped.