Nice Day Turns Tragic

Discussion in 'General Questions' started by beachcruiser, Mar 17, 2009.

  1. beachcruiser

    beachcruiser Member

    An accident outside city limits in my home town on highway
    Route 1 involving a scooter moped. The moped was southbound
    on Route 1 and stopped on the roadway in order to make a left
    turn into the driveway of a residence.
    Moped was struck from the rear by a car. The impact ejected
    the moped driver, who was not wearing a helmet, from the moped.
    The man who was driving the car said that he looked down while
    coughing and when he looked back up he hit the moped. The man
    driving the car was cited for following too closely and for failure to
    reduce speed to avoid an accident. Funeral arrangements are pending
    for the moped driver.

  2. Mountainman

    Mountainman Active Member

    on this early dark morning -- saddened to here this -- MM
  3. bluegoatwoods

    bluegoatwoods Well-Known Member

    I can't express strongly enough my resentment at the fact that we, and our children, risk death when we "trespass" on the auto's turf.

    Since so many people simply refuse to take their responsibility behind the wheel seriously, I just wish that oil would go up to $200.00/barrel.

    And I know that it would have all sorts of other disastrous effects. Destroying my own business would be one of them.

    I still wish it would happen.
  4. duivendyk

    duivendyk Guest

    Looking down when coughing?,a lame excuse,prob. was hunting for something.Keep your eyes on what's ahead at all times is the first rule of the road.On a moped or MB, wear attention getting clothing, use flashing lights and watch your rearview mirror.Left turns by oncoming trafic are the most dangerous as is stopping to make a left turn,you have no place to go.The cops are far to lenient against drivers of 4 wheelers I think.When one of these zombies hit my son,they at first did not want charge him with failing to yield and had to raise **** with the Police Dept to get them to do so.He turned out to be some influential but decripit old luminary,who ought not to have been driving anymore.
  5. Mountainman

    Mountainman Active Member

    even with oil at 200 a barrel
    that won't drive everyone to using motor bikes

    we know we are much harder to see than a car
    they are just not looking for us

    it's a bummer riding at your own risk !!

    monies from insurance does not replace a life !!

    as we ride those things
  6. How come when we read about stuff like this the words VEHICULAR MANSLAUGHTER never comes up?
  7. POPS

    POPS Member

    Good question Large!!!
    Every time I stop on my M/cycle I'm always thinking if the guy behind me is going to. I'm sort of freeked about that. Most vulnerable spot on the road. IMHO...POPS
  8. sjackson

    sjackson Member

    He was probably on his cell phone. They've actually proven that talking on your cell phone while driving actually makes you partially blind. It's called inattentional blindness. Your brain sees everything, but only registers part of it because there is only so much your brain can perceive at one time. Concentrating on a phone conversation actually takes up more processing power than people think.

    Since this guy wasn't in a car, his brain probably wasn't used to seeing objects like that on the road. So he probably quite literally did not see the guy.

    distractions kill. this is why I cringe whenever I see people get excited about the future of transport and claim that everyone will have flying cars.
  9. bluegoatwoods

    bluegoatwoods Well-Known Member

    I think that the answer to Large Filipino's question is that our society, mostly, doesn't view drivers stupidly killing people as being a crime. It's an "accident".

    Those of us of a certain age will remember how the cops would simply escort you home if they found that you had had a few too many beers. Right or wrong, the MADD crowd has forced a "zero tolerance" policy on us. And if you're just a bit over the line, then it's gonna cost you big.

    We need to take on a similar attitude toward any driver who touches anything that he's not supposed to.
  10. spunout

    spunout Member

    dont get me wrong, i hate reading this kind of news as much as everyone. BUT...the fact is, that none of us were there to witness what really happened. perhaps, the coughing driver has lung cancer or some other respiratory illness. i saw my grandmother fall into coughing fits, that left her immobile for minutes afterward. if something like that were the case, then the person should not be driving.

    sad news, indeed. but lets not throw a rope around the nearest tree just yet.....
  11. bluegoatwoods

    bluegoatwoods Well-Known Member

    Fair enough, spunout. A coughing fit might hit anyone.

    But if it does, then we all should quickly hit the four way flashers and start braking and pulling over as fast as possible, short of being dangerous about it. If we don't, then we are being just as reckless as the cell phone gabbers.

    And the law ought to enforce things like that.
    Last edited: Mar 19, 2009
  12. Mountainman

    Mountainman Active Member

    THINGS such as this -- do happen...

    that's true -- we don't know exactly what happened -- maybe never will...

    I have also seen one's with coughing fits to where
    their eyes watered up -- making it hard to see, hard to walk, drive etc etc
    many other side effects also noted

    yes -- one's with coughing fits such as this should not be driving
    question would be -- at what point do they realize -- unsafe ??

    my first wife was killed in a car accident -- was not her fault
    still -- as hard as it can be to say -- it was an accident
    no one went to jail
    it was something that someone ((many)) had to live with for ever...

    always a sad thing when someone get's hurt or killed
    Last edited: Mar 19, 2009
  13. Revorunner

    Revorunner Member

    Sorry to hear about your first wife Mountainman.Live can be very unfair at times.

    I'm sorry for your loss.
  14. Mountainman

    Mountainman Active Member

    thank you Revorunner

    thank you Revorunner

    yes -- I'll never -- never forget telling our 3 year old little boy
    that his mommy was not coming home -- she had went to Heaven....

    man that was hard to do !!!!!!!!!!

    a blessing is today
    he now has 4 of his own little ones -- my grandchildren

  15. POPS

    POPS Member

    My heart go's out to you brother...POPS
  16. SimpleSimon

    SimpleSimon Active Member

    MM, losing your wife like that - I can really, really relate. The utter unexpected blow that seems to nearly destroy your world. Having to tell the kids, the phone calls to family - the hardest things I've ever done.

    Take all the joy you can in those g'kids - there is the only real immortality anyone can ever have.
  17. Mountainman

    Mountainman Active Member

    I appreicate you guys -- POPS and SimpleSimon

    not wishing to steal the thread here
    but as SS has stated -- it's a hard THING to deal with
    some have not had to deal with this yet -- we are glad
    it's a burden one carries -- forever
    but -- to be accepted -- as we are all just passing through
    some so much faster than other's

    our thoughts and prayers are with this brother killed on his motor bike and his family
    those of us that have been though things such as this
    know about the many grieving one's left behind...

    can be a sad -- long -- lonely road...

  18. no helmet=certain death
  19. spunout

    spunout Member

    first, sorry to hear that, mountain man (GoodMountain) sir, are a stallion among mules.

    I have two gnarly-looking scratch/indentations on my helmet, that wouldve been my melon had i not been wearing it.
    Last edited: Mar 19, 2009
  20. beachcruiser

    beachcruiser Member

    A twist of fate...
    The young man driving the moped was 24. He was a respectable,
    recently married his highschool sweetheart and has a six month old
    child. He worked at Cellular One selling cell phones. The young man
    the car was 18 years old. My gut feeling is that the man was texting
    on a cell phone before the accident. During this time of pain for his
    family...I do believe is to keep my mouth shut and stay out of it.
    The accident will fall under the radar because the State Trooper
    investigating the accident identified the moped as a motorcycle.
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