(No electrolysis) Gas/Hydrogen hybrid MB

[Chain theory]

How about a Gas/Hydrogen hybrid MB

Run Your gas MB with supplemented Hydrogen from Aluminum and Lye. (no electrolysis)
hydrogen generator H2O + Al -> AlO2 + H2 + heat

How it works. (I have not personally tried this yet on an MB)

Put Aluminum into a tank of Lye (sodium hydroxide and water). Caution Lye is just as dangerous as acid.
The Sodium Hydroxide peels off the Aluminum Oxide surface from the Aluminum allowing water to come into contact with Aluminum metal. The Aluminum immediately oxidizes, ripping the water's Oxygen atoms away to make Aluminum Oxide.(collect and recycle please) That releases the Hydrogen which bubbles out to be burned in the engine.

This reaction produces pure Hydrogen as apposed to electrolysis which produces brown gas (O & H = explosion) I would place the reaction chamber behind you! Run the Hydrogen tube through a series of vinegar (mild acid) bottle bubblers to help neutralize any caustic vapor from the reaction chamber this also prevents back flash. From there I would run the Hydrogen tube through a dryer (like the ones on compressors) and then the final destination is the intake. You now have a Gas/Hydrogen hybrid MB.
The reaction: H2O + Al -> AlO2 + H2 + heat
The reaction chamber must be able to handle heat and the caustic lye. You need to be able to add water,(the fuel) lye and Aluminum as needed. Just think of it as a kind of low psi Hydrogen boost bottle. I think that it might be possible to make this small enough and light enough to fit on a bike. This is an idea that I picked up from an alternative energy web site.

 

[heathyoung]

Why Lye? - its nasty stuff - worse than acid.

Why not use HCL + AL? Hydrogen + aluminium cloride... At least you don't have to mix it, and its cheaply available as muriatic acid for cleaning bricks.

Again, bubble through water to remove acid vapours. Lye is nasty toxic shyte, I had an accident with it once, made a **** of a mess of my skin. I'd rather acid, looks prettier too (stays clear).

 

[Alaskavan]

From what I've read, etc. Hydrogen propogates flame far faster than gasoline, and the mixture will burn at the rate the Hydrogen burns. You might need to alter the timing on your Happy Time.

 

[alternativefuel]

Everyone is always freakin about electrolysis. Without being insulting, the world should get a clue.
Here is a peek at hydrogen without messin with dangerous chemicals.
Take it away James......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cg0XiApLPew
http://www.highperformancefuelcells.com/index.html

 

[Chain theory]

Good links

Thanks alternativefuel

Those links were both informative and funny. One possible problem with that system is that I don't think that our little bike engines produce enough Amps to run one. I hope I'm wrong. Then there is the size and weight issues too. I like the aspect of not having to use any chemicals.

 

[loquin]

Regarding electrolysis: An engine cannot generate enough electricity to produce enough hydrogen to run on hydrogen alone. (otherwise, you're talking about a perpetual motion device, which is physically impossible. Not just 'needing an invention or two to make it possible.') Even with the development of room-temperature superconductors, it is impossible.

 

[loquin]

As far as lye or acid. Both would need to be replaced regularly (at least as regularly as gasoline,) as they have a limited amount of reaction capacity. The hazards associated with highly reactive liquids, coupled with their relatively high costs, would not make this a very 'attractive' approach.

Suppose you have an accident, & wrap the bike around a tree, (or get hit by a car,) & the reaction tank ruptures. Acid or concentrated lye gets tossed around the site, including all over you...

 

[Bigwheel]

You can make Brown's gas with a half a teaspoon of baking soda to a gallon of water with the right generator and get about 80/30 if you have enough amperage. Even a 10% gain would be good and you would gain the advantage of a cleaner engine due to the water vapor introduced at high temperatures essentially steam cleaning your engine. With Ethanol it could be more like 50/50.

Alternative fuels are the future. Plan on it.

 

[alternativefuel]

You can make Brown's gas with a half a teaspoon of baking soda to a gallon of water with the right generator and get about 80/30 if you have enough amperage. Even a 10% gain would be good and you would gain the advantage of a cleaner engine due to the water vapor introduced at high temperatures essentially steam cleaning your engine. With Ethanol it could be more like 50/50.
Alternative fuels are the future. Plan on it.

Yes, gasoline is 13% fuel efficient and diesel is 17%, while 26% of your fuel gets burnt up in your catalytic converter. Now by adding hydrogen, you're making your fuel 95% fuel efficient by balancing your fuel levels.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cg0XiApLPew
http://www.highperformancefuelcells.com/index.html

 

[ZnsaneRyder]

What if you could generate a LOT of HHO at home, and store it in a pressurized tank on your bike and then hose that HHO tank to the intake to supplement the gas. That way the HHO generation isn't done on the bike itself.