OINK! harrasment handled calmly

Discussion in 'Laws, Legislation & Emissions' started by spunout, Jun 28, 2008.

  1. spunout

    spunout Member

    riding in the bike lane, 16mph, as two cops were walking across the st. to a call, one gives the "whats up?" gesture/shoulder shrug and asks "you got a license?" i turned around, met them, and turned off the motor.
    "dont need one." i politely replied.
    "is that 50cc?"
    "actually no. see? it says 48cc."
    ("48cc" engraved magneto cover, courtesy of Spooky)
    "with a helper motor, you're not supposed to be in the bike lane."
    "i know you dont want to hear this, but thats where you're wrong. AZ HB2796. i have a copy with me, that was actually given to me personally by the man who wrote the law, AZ Representative Tom Prezelski. would you like to see it?"
    "if you just want to play games, have a seat over there and i'll talk to you when i'm done here."he said, with more than just a little...steam

    i was on my way to my shop to do some work on the bike. i figured this bench right here will work just fine. removed rear wheel, removed a link and a half, got rid of the roller bearing/idler arm. got the chain tension dead-nuts perfect.

    after an hour, i got tired of waiting, so i made a note on the law "read #'s 5 and 6. have a nice day." and placed it under the windshield wiper of his car.
    he watched me do it as he handled that other deal, and said nothing.

    my point is: that the 'old me' would have cussed, berated him, and done everything just short of picking a fight.
    instead, killing them with kindness leaves a better impression of MotoredBikers.

  2. wavygravy

    wavygravy Guest

    good on ya for the kindness thing, but if they wernt so kind they could have pulled the head & measured the bore & confiscated the bike. i run a happytime to for now & low profile is the key, pedal a lot!!! & dont say oink around officer friendly!
  3. astring

    astring Member

    they need some serious training. Major abuse of power.
  4. bluegoatwoods

    bluegoatwoods Well-Known Member

    These guys were actually doing something else, but they took the time to hassle you and then tell you to wait for them?

    Now I just KNOW they've got to have better things to do.
  5. srdavo

    srdavo Active Member

    Yeah & I hate it, when they put their knee on the back of my neck,,,,sheesh,,, I'm face down, on the ground, anyways...lmao!

    wanna know whut's really fun? I always ask 'em if we're gonna be on "Cops". ( cause if we are... I wanna take my shirt off, NOW. lmao....sorry, all :lol: )

    Nice job, spunout!

    way to represent!!!!
    Last edited: Jun 29, 2008
  6. astring

    astring Member

    Cops in tucson are paid well and have amazing benefits, they should be able to attract a more professional work force. Testify at the city council meeting.
  7. augidog

    augidog New Member

    i owe you a 6-pk of whatever it is yer drinkin' these days :cool:

    btw-y'all keep forgetting cops can read ;)
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  8. Mountainman

    Mountainman Active Member

    Slightly different issues -- but -- I have been carrying some paperwork while I ride also.. It seems like -- with the pooolice -- we just never know -- what to expect --- I drove through a neighboring town yesterday -- KNOWN FOR THEIR VERY STRICK LAWS -- yes - the state laws are not good enough for them -- they have even more -- I DID A LOT OF PEDALLING !!!! Happy Riding from - Mountainman
  9. loquin

    loquin Active Member

    FYI - it's not AZ house bill any more. Once the bill passes, and is signed into law, it becomes a statute. A.R.S. 28-2516
  10. mark2yahu

    mark2yahu Member

    A good example of abuse of power and "some" of them not knowing the laws concerning motorized bikes, mopeds and motorcycles. "Some" of them are on a major power trip and want you to quake in fear of their presence. Remember you are a citizen and have rights...and acted like one. Good work!
  11. spunout

    spunout Member

    i'll be 'off-paper' in a couple weeks, so fire up a 6'r of Guiness, please and thank you. :cool:

    i know they can read. thats why i left the copy under the windshield before i left. :p

    my point, is basically that from now on, those two officers prolly wont be hasseling us and those like us.

    unless its warranted.

    i admit that after work, at night, on a long, dark, lonely stretch of road i open 'er up and give 'er Hades. but when i get more into town/traffic you can bet i follow the rules.
    ok, ok...i know the 70cc isnt part of that gig. but, as long as a person doesnt give them the reason to tear open the motor, it prolly wont happen.

    i left them with more knowledge than they had before. good enough.

    PS-the reason i didnt reply to the posts about the harrassment itself, is because i've been through it my whole life and kinda tired of talking about it.
    Last edited: Jun 29, 2008
  12. azbill

    azbill Active Member

    good job dude
    I, on the other hand, get very upset when they hassle me
    yes, even after all these years of being hassled by them
    I should know better, but one tool can wreck my whole day
    after beating them in court, the good news is they leave me n vinnie alone

    ps...they actually saw my mag cover as well :D
  13. augidog

    augidog New Member

    they can read forums too...you know, like read about fake displacement labels & such... so :p back at ya! :lol:

    Guiness it is...in the fridge, icey cold, and waiting for you :D

    i totally agree that you did the right thing...not a "protest" gesture but one of "compromise"...more please :cool:
  14. frankz

    frankz New Member

    know your rights


    this is a bit of a stoner movie but the same rights apply to bike riders and every citizen of the grand ole USA.......... the man would like to make you think it doesnt......

    in the first vid it could have just as well been a person on a bike minding own business...........

    anything you say will be used against you...............

    this is not off topic as it deals with how to handle officers who are "unlawful" which is the case often with mopeds and mo assist bikes
    in kansas they actually tried to tell me my "purchased suzuki moped" with tag and insurance was illegal to ride on the street.............

    i had to get a letter from the district attorney informing them that they were incorrect on the law...........

    i called yesterday to see about the law on motor assist bikes........i get a diff answer for each county........ bottom line is police are people who like anyone working in a kwik shop doesnt know the price of every item in store.......and because they have the emasculating badge they feel they can make up prices as they go

    doesnt make them bad its just they are "trained" to be authority and when put on the spot they will give a ticket and be wrong rather than "back down" to a hippie on a pedalmotor contraption
  15. crazeehorse

    crazeehorse Member

    look up house bill 666, it totally does away with several rights, as far as searches , & warrants for searches. i've seen this video some good info, but if you've able to get your local state code, thats where your real help is. i keep a copy of mine, as it applies to motorized bicycles. if you offer a cop this info. & they ignore you, take it to court, it will just make the officer look bad for not knowing the code, which i would think they would want to avoid. many people are suprised to find out that many cops are working & writing tickets, without even being certified as a peace officer, which means that person should'nt even be in a patrol car without a certified officer & then only as an observer, & back up if needed. that can also be beat in court. the first thing i would ask is are you a p.o.s.t. certified officer, this info can be checked very easy.
  16. Mountainman

    Mountainman Active Member

    crazeehourse -- little slow here - what does this p.o.s.t. stand for ? One problem that I see is that - if I ask anyone holding a ticket book if they are qualified to write a ticket - I would bet that I am getting one (ticket) for sure - at least where I live... Happy Riding from - Mountainman
  17. crazeehorse

    crazeehorse Member

    Peace Officer Standards
    and Training Commission

    oh no, by all means, take the ticket, be as polite as possible, get the officers name, & check him out. check your state code, then go to court, the judges job is to enforce the law, he has to, or you can appeal.
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