On going project -fastest motorized bicycle ever- pics

I still have a few things to do but so far it is going fast. Thought I would show it off well doing maintenance

What do you guys think would look good on it?


And yes it will be cleaned soon
 

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well, im assuming your talking about a motorcycle engine, in which case id have to disagree (if they were faster, why don't motorcycle manufactures make street bike with them? other than emissions) its because they now rev well into the 10k range and have multiple cylinders that make that power. motocross hasn't had a good 2 stroke compete in a while, why? becuase the 4 stroke has more torque than a 2 stroke at bottem end, and by the time you hit power band the 4 strokes already in the next gear.
That's not true at all! A 125 2t makes closer to 30hp and would beat a 250 4t easily since the 2t builds it's rpm faster, has a higher peak and a closer ratio gearbox.I race a h2 750cc 2t against 1000,1100,1200-1600cc 4t's and tbh it's not really fair to them but their just isn't enough 2t's to run against these days.Motocross hasn't had a good 2t in a while ??? All the pro circuit riders use a 2t and I don't think KTM would agree with you ether since their efi 2t's are the top choice atm.
 
That's not true at all! A 125 2t makes closer to 30hp and would beat a 250 4t easily since the 2t builds it's rpm faster, has a higher peak and a closer ratio gearbox.I race a h2 750cc 2t against 1000,1100,1200-1600cc 4t's and tbh it's not really fair to them but their just isn't enough 2t's to run against these days.Motocross hasn't had a good 2t in a while ??? All the pro circuit riders use a 2t and I don't think KTM would agree with you ether since their efi 2t's are the top choice atm.
for enduro/woods i would agree with you husky/ktm 2 strokes are top chocies.

also for motocross the pro-circuit team is 100% Kawasaki, and Kawasaki dosent make a 2 stroke above 100ccs, they use the kx250, a 4 stroke race bike
so wtf are you saying??
 
Dude I’m not calling you out, I just want to see it. I been going 60s on stock 212s for almost 5 years. With all the primary and upgrade kits out there people don’t really build customs anymore. I still do and I like to see what few customs are being built.

Whoops did not mean to hijack ops thread. Edited.
I saw the pic of your bike. Is the frame Kustom? Or what type frame was that?
 
for enduro/woods i would agree with you husky/ktm 2 strokes are top chocies.

also for motocross the pro-circuit team is 100% Kawasaki, and Kawasaki dosent make a 2 stroke above 100ccs, they use the kx250, a 4 stroke race bike
so wtf are you saying??
Here is the AMA's pro level specs for the classes and they put 125cc 2t's with 250cc 4t's to keep it fair and 250cc 2t's with 450cc 4t's and now how many pro riders are choosing to race the heavier slower 4t's LOL team riders don't have a choice and very few independent's can afford to race every event to place well over all but when they do race you can plainly see they have way more power!Point is that the 2t's make more power with less displacement simple fact like it or not. 3.2 Engine Displacements a. 250 Motocross Class:0-125cc 2-Stroke / 150-250cc 4-stroke b. 450 Motocross Class:150-250cc 2-Stroke / 251-450cc 4-stroke
 
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Pros and cons to both - I love both 2strokes and 4strokes!

In general, 4strokes have the acceleration advantage and can be boosted MUCH more efficiently. 2strokes rev like crazy and are awesome for top end. I've loved my 2strokes, and I have loved my 4strokes.

Dude I’m not calling you out, I just want to see it. I been going 60s on stock 212s for almost 5 years. With all the primary and upgrade kits out there people don’t really build customs anymore. I still do and I like to see what few customs are being built.

Whoops did not mean to hijack ops thread. Edited.
My bad man, for some reason when I read it the post came along like a super condescending callout/troll post. Maybe because it pretty much HAS been a year :LOL:. 3 days of a crazy sinus headache probably doesn't help the mood. Deleted post (y). I have made tons of progress but work and distractions have been taking up a lot of time lately so maybe only get to spend an hour or two on it per WEEK. Its currently stripped back down to a frame while I make some final tweaks and do the engine build. Frame will be the weak link, but I need to sacrifice that for the simple fact that it needs to start as a bicycle frame for me to claim any records. If it was a true commuter I would just make a frame from scratch with dual down tubes, proper built in motor plate, and no pedals.

I saw the pic of your bike. Is the frame Kustom? Or what type frame was that?
He has probably the best frame I have seen of any motorized bike, including mine that I recently finished. I personally think he should have a LOT more power for it but to each his own :).

My case is this guys, so you make a 22hp 212 4 stroke, that means a 250 2 stroke would fit in that space and be way faster. Im not saying yours isn't cool or anything man... just would always lose to a 2 stroke of similar size.
If you are talking dirt bike engines and internal transmission 2strokes then yea thats a HUGE advantage for power to weight...but for the most part these are single speed bikes which are not ideal for 2strokes since they have much more narrow power ranges and need that gearing to get moving. Like I said, there are 70cc AM6s with 20hp but only 9ftlbs of TQ with a very narrow power band. I'd take a 212 4stroke over that...but I'd take a 125cc 6sp 2stroke over both of them!
 
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My rear wheel is all custom, another thing I had to basically find out for myself since no options for 15+hp that I would consider safe. You are correct - bicycle parts won't last.

Went with the ghettobike hub, which is your ONLY option for big power if you want to keep pedals. Even moped ones are a problem once you get around 20hp. I then purchased an 18" Excel dirt bike hoop, chose that size because a DOT 18" rear tire is right around 26" (25.5")so will be familiar gearing. Measured the ERD of the rim and mic'd the hub to measure for spokes, then I got some 10g moped spokes and sent them off to buchanans to cut to the length I need. For the nipples, I got stainless washers and flared every one by hand(ouch) to seat under the nipples since the 10ga spoke head doesn't leave enough contact on the 8ga dirt bike nipple seats so I wanted to spread the load so they don't pull out. Not done yet - because of the wide hoop and wide DOT tire, I needed to make a spacer for the rear sprocket to offset it so the chain doesn't hit the tire. I used a piece of 1" aluminum bar stock and a drill press with hole saw to cut the center out, then held a sprocket against it to mark off the sprocket mount holed.

All in all even doing it myself (besides cutting and rolling the spokes) it was damn near $400 for just the back wheel...but it is totally bulletproof and will handle anything I can throw at it (I hope). Not really any other options at this point.

Don't forget a wheel this heavy needs serious brakes. I have pitbike hydraulic brakes mounted but still don't trust the shimano bicycle rotor lasting too long. Its slightly thicker than the generic amazon one and definitely flexes less, but still just seems too wimpy. Next project is finding a way to run a thicker dirtbike rotor.

Guess I can share a pic lol.
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If you don’t find a thicker rotor maybe you could double up bicycle rotors. Thick rotors are 5mm thick. Typical bicycle rotors are no more than 2mm. I’d rivet two together. I know for a fact the pitbike brake will warp the bicycle rotor and stop the bike like it’s never been stopped before. Seen a pic of the damage once.
Never thought of doubling them up. Bet I could tack weld them towards the bottom or around the top and put a few rivets through them to hold together without damaging the brake surface, great idea.

Yea it is a TON of force on those skinny rotors so I know they won't last long! Only has a few stops from 45-50mph on it during test rides, no high speed runs yet.
 
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