Pre release teaser Pics NE-R

Discussion in 'Whizzer Motorized Bicycles' started by MotorbikeMike, Oct 25, 2008.

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  1. HI Guys, these are pics that were sent out to the dealers this week of the new NE-R.

    I do NOT have exact dates as to when any will be in country, the thought is sometime late november, however it is about a 30 day boat ride from the land of their birth. Many things can change delivery scheduals.

    There have been significant changes, maybe you can spot some of them? Word is that the first group or two will be all black, with colors to come.

    I hope you like this "Sneak Peek"


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  2. Mountainman

    Mountainman Active Member

    that's a very nice looking MB Mike

    I have seen pictures of it before -- and have been wondering
    what is the purpose of the large chrome piece between the tank and head ?

    must say -- that's a head turner MB

    ride that thing
  3. eltatertoto

    eltatertoto Guest

    how much? looks very cool.
  4. Hal the Elder

    Hal the Elder Member

    Hey Mike:

    Thanks for the Sneek Peek!

    (BTW...what's the penalty for Industrial Espionage?) :grin:

    I have three words to say about the looks of the NE-R:

    I LIKE IT !

    Although there are changes, at first glance it is unmistakably Whizzer!

    How do I like it? Let me count the ways:

    Disc Brakes
    Huskier Tires
    CVT Transmission (a mixed blessing?)
    Motorcycle-style dual-clamp bars
    Turn Signals (yawn)

    I assume that the latest engine upgrades that were in the 2008 NE5 are in the NE-R.

    Probably 20-30 pounds have been added over the NE5, but it would still be lighter than the Ambassador.

    That chrome housing under the tank could be storage for a spare crankshaft...

    Thanks, Mike!
    Last edited: Oct 25, 2008
  5. KilroyCD

    KilroyCD Active Member

    Well, I will say that the finished bike sneak peek photos looks a darned sight better than the yellow prototype I saw in the spy shot. Now that the NE-R photos are out, I'll post the spy shot here.
    There are two things I see that are cause for concern. One is the lack of cooling fins on the head (compared to the NE5) and the large chrome fairing that will very likely cut off some of the air flow to the head. That is a recipe for overheating. Another cause for concern is the very wide crankset for the pedals. It is supported in the center by a standard width bottom bracket, which means the bearings (and races) are going to have quite a bit more leverage applied to them than with a standard crank. Get some riders who are built like me, and it's likely to result in a bent crank, blown crank bearings or both.
    Otherwise, it looks sharp!

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  6. wavygravy

    wavygravy Guest

    new ne-r

    what do you mean by land of there birth? dont tell me whizzer has sold out to china too? at least this one has pedals! i love the old whizzers!!
  7. Egor

    Egor Guest

    With the CVT on there you can not pedal to get it started any more, IE the electric starter. You need a battery to push that so it must be in that large chrome cover under the tank, that will take some getting used to! I see what looks like a breather under the seat. I like the brakes, that is a well deserved addition. It has a triple crown now and no bicycle steering head. A motorcycle head lamp and the wires that are now in the chrome football. The bars are now motorcycle bars, with a cross brace and semi high rise? I wonder why the fins on the head look smaller, are they trying to get a flat head to run cleaner! like that will happen. I am not fond of the shorter exhaust system, looks like a hold over from the Ambassador. The left side of the engine looks cluttered, you have heard me say not too many times I wish we had a ByMatic two speed. Have fun, Dave
  8. Hal the Elder

    Hal the Elder Member

    Hey Kilroy:


    That CVT drive on the yellow prototype looks more like a conveyor drive in a rock-crushing plant!

    It's massiveness and complexity certainly doesn't represent the simplicity of the vintage Whizzers that I remember from the Jurassic Era!

    Now I'm back to considering that unsold 2006 NE5, as you and Quenton are advising!

    Oh yeah...there's also another 2006 NE5 (used) that I can get for $1200 out the door from an automotive/motorcycle repair shop. The man says it'll have to have a valve job because it only shows 70 pounds of compression, but the price will be the same after the rework.

    The bike has less than 100 miles on it, and it needs that kind of work? The shop owner even put new tires on it, which seems strange with that mileage...

    Should I trust this deal?

    Last edited: Oct 26, 2008
  9. Kep1a

    Kep1a Guest

    I see broken drive side crankshafts in that bikes future going by the last picture. Hang that kind of weight out that far out and those will be the risks. Especially if there is any CVT drive out of balance conditions or over tension on the belt.

    Otherwise the bike looks OK to me. I do notice that the new released pictures show a chain going to the rear wheel so that CVT drive overhang may be less pronounced in the production version. I notice a vertical white plastic pcv tube behind the seat. Could this be the PCV vent system Lee developed to correct the oil all over the rear fender, tire, belt, frame and seat post coming out the breather vent issue we all experience? They mounted it too low, the bottom of the tube is too low from the way it looks in the picture. You must allow for the oil to drain back to the crank case or the vent tube will fill with oil

    My set up...

    My novelty licence plate...


    Note: I had to do links because the [IMG} HTTP://{/IMG) code is turned off. Anyone know what I can do to get that code feature turned on so I can correct this problem?

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  10. RdKryton

    RdKryton Active Member

    Good eye. That is exactly what you see. I wonder if they will ever give him credit for the design? I somehow doubt it.

  11. Quenton Guenther

    Quenton Guenther Motored Bikes Sponsor

    Hi Hal,

    Often the valve seats aren't cut at all [no 45 degree angle]. And many had a very small area cut on the seats. On all the cylinders, motors, or cylinder kits I have sold I always re-cut the seat with a NEWAY tool, then I lap the valves into the seats, then I liquid test them. If the dealer offered to re-seat the valves in the deal, sounds like he knows what he is doing, and you might want to consider buying the bike. On most [not all] of the bikes I have sold I upgraded the tires because it doesn't cost much to use a better grade of tire.

    Have fun,
    Quenton "Lee" Guenther
  12. StillDream'n

    StillDream'n Guest

    Hi Guys,
    Very nice I like it!
    Joe Pierson
    Kerman Ca.
  13. sk8erpunk

    sk8erpunk Member

    well, I am jealous that so many features that I had to pay for will now be standard. I do like the way it looks. looks good to me. and I can see how they used the Ambassador to add some upgrades to the Whizzer.

    Does anyone know what headlight they are using on there?
  14. Kep1a

    Kep1a Guest

    I just found out that with a CVT "transmission" that the Arizona DMV will no longer consider this as a motor assisted bike. It was until now grandfathered in as a motor assisted bike or moped. That status may be lost all together now. As such it must now go by motor scooter laws. No longer can it be ridden in the bike lane or path. Licence, registration, insurance, motorcycle endorsement is now required. I hope it is just the new one that is affected by this rule or I will be more than just a little ****ed!

    For me all that is a deal breaker as I do not want to ride in traffic. I like putting along at 20 mph nearly alone on the bike lane/path. If I was going to have to go through all that legal cwap I think either nothing or a small motorcycle or scooter would have to be the choice for me.

    I think whizzer has made a terrible decision to drop the NE5 heritage bike that favorably reflects back to the original 1947 model. I also wonder why they did not just refine and improve what they had. They could have just made this one to replace the ambassador that seems not be catching on at all.

    You know Jeep has done much the same thing and lost their loyal following too. Jeep enthusiasts just repair and rebuild the originals rather than buy new.

  15. sk8erpunk

    sk8erpunk Member

    I don't know Kep1a. how is a cop (or the DMV) going to know about the CVT transmission? do they have anyway of knowing that when you register the bike? not sure if AZ has the same laws as other states, but here in Cali it is easy to get a moped license and registration (one time fee, send form in the mail). that way we can be legal and it is still easier than regular registration, title, etc.
  16. Kep1a

    Kep1a Guest

    I have already been asked to provide my ID (licence) and prove that what I have is a motor assisted bike and not a motorcycle by pedalling the bike a few feet. I also had to explain that behind that big chrome cover is only a couple belts and an automatic clutch and not a transmission. I even was asked "if you have a commercial drivers licence and two new cars registered why do you ride a motored bike then. My reply was "to screw OPEC". He smiled and said thats not a bad idea. Then he let me continue on my ride home from work at 3:30am.

    They tend to hassle the motored bike owners around here. I have seen cops slow and follow these motored bike owners to ensure they do not exceed 20 mph. The underlying belief of our police is that these motorized bike owners are the lawless sub culture and are comprised of those who have lost their licence either due to a DUI or other illegal activities.

  17. Hal the Elder

    Hal the Elder Member

    Hey Kep1a:


    So there's somebody else who prefers to go putting along a bike path or country lane at 20 MPH!

    My respects to you, Sir!

    "Stroker" Hal
    Last edited: Oct 29, 2008
  18. Kep1a

    Kep1a Guest

    You know if Whizzer decided to put a set of quality international standard sealed disc brake hubs with hayes mechanical disc brakes along with a quality set of painted to match manitu or other quality disc brake compatible mountain bike true suspension fork. Then upgrade the bike to sealed headset, pedals and bottom bracket. Fixed the quality issues with the clutch, lifters, belt alignment along with other fit and finish issues and promoted it as a 50 to 60k no touch quality motorized bike. I would buy two in a heart beat even at $2200 or possibly even more if I had confidence in it like folks do with Toyota.

    But it has to keep connection with it's heritage and retain the 1947 simple but intelligent design philosophy.

    Just a thought

    Am I off base or is this what most folks are willing to pay their hard earned dollars for?
  19. jk-1

    jk-1 Guest

    ( I just found out that with a CVT "transmission" that the Arizona DMV will no longer consider this as a motor assisted bike. It was until now grandfathered in as a motor assisted bike or moped. That status may be lost all together now. As such it must now go by motor scooter laws. No longer can it be ridden in the bike lane or path. Licence, registration, insurance, motorcycle endorsement is now required. I hope it is just the new one that is affected by this rule or I will be more than just a little ****ed! )

    As far as I can find out, The New NE-R Is " Illegal " in "ALL" 50 states as a Motorbike. Do to the CVT clutch, in which changes the Gear Ratio of the running gear. And that put's the NE-R into a category in most states that requires a , License - Registration - Insurance and NO bike lanes...

    Take Care - Jim
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  20. KilroyCD

    KilroyCD Active Member

    It's a motorcycle in PA...

    In PA it will have to be registered as a motorcycle, as it completely surpasses the criteria for a motor-driven bicycle or even a moped. With the CVT I would assume that to be the case in most states as well.
    I hate to say it, but once again it looks like Whizzer took direct aim at their target audience and shot themselves squarely in the foot.