For what's worth, I've noticed something. I've only been here since 11/29/07 but I am seeing, anecdotal as it may be, a difference in the forum. When I drop by, the first thing I look at is the number of people viewing Frame Mount vs Rack Mount. It used to be Frame Mount was always on top, heck, seemed to me this was a HT site but now I see more people viewing Rack Mount. Could it be that the movement as a whole is moving in a different direction, that could explain some of the "friction" of late between the two factions. The whole issue of EPA seems to be directed to a few select HT vendors that also seem to have a disproportionate number of dissatisfied customers for other reasons.
I too have the dark side, I came here for good MB discussion but I am very political and enjoy sticking my finger in someones eye on occasion. Fact is we all have an agenda, mine is Staton, I like his product, I think Global warming is the greatest lie ever told and positions like these rub people the wrong way. Spirited discussion generally follows that sometimes gets personal. So when is enough really enough, when is it time for the mods to step in and quiet things down, I don't know. It's a very subjective thing, all I know is if anyone believes this forum is practicing censorship, leave, sign off, go to another site, watch TV, work on your bike, endless possibility's.