Reducing HorsePower? (Try not to point and/or LOL)

[YoungChaos]

Okay, So I don't know if this is a common question or not but how can I reduce the 2.5 HP to a measly 1 bHP (Honestly I'm pretty ticked off) Here is Ohio MoPed Laws.

The Ohio Revised Code defines a moped, or motorized bicycle, as any vehicle with two tandem wheels or one front and two rear wheels which is capable of being pedaled and is also equipped with a helper motor. The helper motor may not:
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  [*=center] Have a piston displacement of more than 50 cubic centimeters;
  [*=center]Produce more than one brake horsepower; and
  [*=center]Propel the vehicle at a maximum speed greater than 20 mph on a level surface.
  

If a vehicle exceeds any one of these criteria, it is legally a motorcycle. Be certain BEFORE you buy. Contact your local deputy registrar or the Ohio Bureau of Motor Vehicles, Registration Section, P.O. Box 16520, Columbus, Ohio 43216-6520, (614) 752-7800 or (800) 589-TAGS (8247), if you have questions. See reverse side for the list of vehicles that may legally be operated as “mopeds” in Ohio.
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So, basically it is saying if your motor driven bicycle is: higher than 50cc (HuaSheng: Passes), has more than 1.013 HP (HuaSheng: Fails), or goes faster than 20 mph (HauSheng: Fails); then your Motorized bike is (According to Ohio State Law) a motorcycle. With it being considered a motorcycle I cannot ride it to school legally. My class D license are suspended. I cannot obtain a motorcycle license, nor can I insure the "motorcycle." What bull! So, I'm hoping to find a alternate solution to paying 50+ dollars in shipping to send the kit back. Anyone? Any Ideas? I'm all ears. Plus I figured the reduce horsepower may even prolong the motors life though it could have the opposite effect for all I know. I'm not a Mechanical Engineer. I've heard of Resistor Plates/ Air Resistors which are plates that limit airflow to the intake; resulting in reduced/limited Horsepower and Speed.

 

[dougsr.874]

How is a cop on the side of the road going to know what horsepower an engine is? It's whatever hp you say it is...

 

[YoungChaos]

How is a cop on the side of the road going to know what horsepower an engine is? It's whatever hp you say it is...

You have to have some bull laminated card to operate a moped in Ohio.

 

[butre]

restrictor plate or throttle stop is the only way to do it. which one is easier to implement depends on what tools you have.

or do what most people are doing and lie about how much power it makes.

 

[KCvale]

Put a couple of extra head gaskets in, that will hobble the engine HP.

That is not the route you want to take though.
It's a legal engine @ 49cc.
Ride safe, follow the riding rules, and slow down a bit when you see a cop.

Take it to court if you get sited and make the court test your bike to prove it has over the brake HP, no court in the land is going to spend thousands to collect a $100 fine for something as stupid as some arbitrary brake horsepower test.

I have not a built a single bike that couldn't do over 20MPH on flat dry no wind ground even sitting up and never ride 20MPH.

The law SHOULD NOT limit any vehicles engine performance under ideal conditions to regulate speed, if that were the case we all of us would be driving Yugo's that can't get 65 MPH on freeway under ideal conditions.

 

[MotorBicycleRacing]

Put a couple of extra head gaskets in, that will hobble the engine HP.

There are no head gaskets on a 49 cc Huasheng 4 stroke because they have a one piece head.

See reverse side for the list of vehicles that may legally be operated as “mopeds” in Ohio.

what is on that list?

 

[YoungChaos]

There are no head gaskets on a 49 cc Huasheng 4 stroke because they have a one piece head.


what is on that list?

Obviously, the reverse side list will not include ANY engines that produce over 1 bHP, which is 1.013 horse power. I may have to make a restrictor plate myself because I cannot find measurements online.

 

[professor]

How small a restrictor are you going to make?
To shave off unknown hp?
For an unknown policeman to ask an unanswerable question.

Make a sticker that says 1 hp @ 3ooo rpm (HP is always at some specified rpm) and stick it on the engine.

Ride at spandex speed, wear a helmet, glasses, safety vest, look safe and nobody will bother you.

 

[Timbone]

I was talking to a friend who lives in Ohio today. Ohio has a very restrictive law when it comes to mopeds/scooters. From what I have read, the motorized bike as we know them requires insurance. I have no info on how the law is enforced there, but my friend tells me that nearly every scooter you see there has been plated. Maybe you can stay under the radar by keeping it under 20. Maybe not.

 

[boyntonstu]

Show your Ohio friend the Ohio Statute:

http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/4501


As used in this chapter and Chapters 4503., 4505., 4507., 4509., 4510., 4511., 4513., 4515., and 4517. of the Revised Code, and in the penal laws, except as otherwise provided:

(A) "Vehicles" means everything on wheels or runners, including motorized bicycles, but does not mean electric personal assistive mobility devices, vehicles that are operated exclusively on rails or tracks or from overhead electric trolley wires, and vehicles that belong to any police department, municipal fire department, or volunteer fire department, or that are used by such a department in the discharge of its functions.

(B) "Motor vehicle" means any vehicle, including mobile homes and recreational vehicles, that is propelled or drawn by power other than muscular power or power collected from overhead electric trolley wires. "Motor vehicle" does not include utility vehicles as defined in division (VV) of this section, motorized bicycles, road rollers, traction engines, power shovels, power cranes, and other equipment used in construction work and not designed for or employed in general highway transportation, well-drilling machinery, ditch-digging machinery, farm machinery, and trailers that are designed and used exclusively to transport a boat between a place of storage and a marina, or in and around a marina, when drawn or towed on a public road or highway for a distance of no more than ten miles and at a speed of twenty-five miles per hour or less.

(C) "Agricultural tractor" and "traction engine" mean any self-propelling vehicle that is designed or used for drawing other vehicles or wheeled machinery, but has no provisions for carrying loads independently of such other vehicles, and that is used principally for agricultural purposes.

(D) "Commercial tractor," except as defined in division (C) of this section, means any motor vehicle that has motive power and either is designed or used for drawing other motor vehicles, or is designed or used for drawing another motor vehicle while carrying a portion of the other motor vehicle or its load, or both.

(E) "Passenger car" means any motor vehicle that is designed and used for carrying not more than nine persons and includes any motor vehicle that is designed and used for carrying not more than fifteen persons in a ridesharing arrangement.

(F) "Collector's vehicle" means any motor vehicle or agricultural tractor or traction engine that is of special interest, that has a fair market value of one hundred dollars or more, whether operable or not, and that is owned, operated, collected, preserved, restored, maintained, or used essentially as a collector's item, leisure pursuit, or investment, but not as the owner's principal means of transportation. "Licensed collector's vehicle" means a collector's vehicle, other than an agricultural tractor or traction engine, that displays current, valid license tags issued under section 4503.45 of the Revised Code, or a similar type of motor vehicle that displays current, valid license tags issued under substantially equivalent provisions in the laws of other states.

(G) "Historical motor vehicle" means any motor vehicle that is over twenty-five years old and is owned solely as a collector's item and for participation in club activities, exhibitions, tours, parades, and similar uses, but that in no event is used for general transportation.

(H) "Noncommercial motor vehicle" means any motor vehicle, including a farm truck as defined in section 4503.04 of the Revised Code, that is designed by the manufacturer to carry a load of no more than one ton and is used exclusively for purposes other than engaging in business for profit.

(I) "Bus" means any motor vehicle that has motor power and is designed and used for carrying more than nine passengers, except any motor vehicle that is designed and used for carrying not more than fifteen passengers in a ridesharing arrangement.

(J) "Commercial car" or "truck" means any motor vehicle that has motor power and is designed and used for carrying merchandise or freight, or that is used as a commercial tractor.

(K) "Bicycle" means every device, other than a device that is designed solely for use as a play vehicle by a child, that is propelled solely by human power upon which a person may ride, and that has two or more wheels, any of which is more than fourteen inches in diameter.

(L) "Motorized bicycle" means any vehicle that either has two tandem wheels or one wheel in the front and two wheels in the rear, that is capable of being pedaled, and that is equipped with a helper motor of not more than fifty cubic centimeters piston displacement that produces no more than one brake horsepower and is capable of propelling the vehicle at a speed of no greater than twenty miles per hour on a level surface.


(B) "Motor vehicle" means any vehicle, including mobile homes and recreational vehicles, that is propelled or drawn by power other than muscular power or power collected from overhead electric trolley wires. "Motor vehicle" does not include utility vehicles as defined in division (VV) of this section, motorized bicycles,

Do non Motor Vehicles need licensing?

Ohio seems very liberal.