Registration in California is not possible and not required

[OldPete]

To be legit when operating a pedal assisted bicycle, one needs: A CDL with an M-2 cert, wear a DOT approved helmet and the bicycle must have operable pedal power.

I am going to hopefully buy a used pedal bike with a plate on it today, 06/09/07. I will mail in for a plate in less than two weeks because the motor kit is not here yet for the present build. I have a M-1 cert on my CDL already. I will be buying a GIRO full face helmet because the only helmets here are funky bicycle pimple head kind or full face Arai motorcycle type. The helmet will be fudged on. might buy a DOT sticker at the M/C swap-meet.
You can put turn signals on your bike if you wish but it won't matter if no pedal power is present.
Good luck.

 

[jerryt]

The law is confusing but here is my interpretation
DISCLAIMER: I am not a lawyer or a criminal (but I'm repeating myself)

You can get the plate without an M2 license. Go Here

EDIT: Delete

Download/copy the first form and fill out section A and D. Send it in with a check or money order.

Note that the cost is $17 (for inflation) NOT $15 as mentioned in a different post. See the DMV explanation in my previous post

To be perfectly legal, you need an M2 motorized bicycle license. The instructions are here

http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/dl655/dl665mcycle.pdf

Page 6 defines a motorized bicycle and page 7 defines the license requirement


Good Luck

 

[MotorbikeMike]

In the confusion

Hello, I have done all these things. I mailed and recieved and mounted 2 moped plates, one for Wifey's Whizzer and one for mine. If you-all like I will post pics. The State of Kalifornika form is named REG230 and is a downloadable pdf form. I reccomend to all my Whizzer (street legal DOT, EPA, and CARB legal bikes), and owner/buyers of any other of the bicycle engines that I've been selling for about 7 years now, to do this form. I give them the form.
1) Put bicycle serial number in the vin slot (Whiz has VIN)
2) Put engine serial number in the engine slot (if not numbered like the Whizzer is, then stamp one, illegal technically, but who is to know?)
3) put bicycle and engine name in the Make slot ie Roadmaster/Skyhawk
4) answer all four questions correctly
5) sign and date
6) in envelope with check to DMV for 17.00
7) put the cotton-pickin thing in the mail, do NOT confuse the local DMV by going there with your bike, or even asking them any questions!!!

Getting your license.
This time show up at DMV, and ask to take motorcycle exam I think mine was 25.00 (you DID study, didn't you???) The motorcycle handbook is online and easily found.
IF a certain number of months have passed since your last C (auto) exam has passed you will also have to take the front page of the C.
Miss less than 5 questions (each test), and they will issue a computer print-out to carry along with your license. You have up to one year to do the agility course and get full license endorsement.

Restrictions
No night riding, no freeway riding, no carring passenger.

Agility test
This I have not yet done, but I questiond the DMV lady who administers it, and she says if you show up with a motorcycle with transmission, they saftey check the bike ALL lights and horn MUST work, and they have you go thru the gears a couple time, ride the course, ahd you get M1 license. If you show up on anything else with no transmission, all saftey checks apply and you drive the course, and if sucessful you get m2. I would NOT reccomend showing up with Motor-Bicycle unless it is Whizzer, or fully functioning MB with Brake lights for front and rear brakes, head and tailiites, and a horn.

If you-all have any questions I'm sure I can answer them, or if not I can get you the answer in terms of CA, not elsewhere.

 

[JosephGarcia]

take a picture of your plates, i want to see what they look like.

 

[itskeith]

So, more than 2 hp is considered a motorcycle?

Thanks for delving deep into this subject,

So, under 2 hp, one time registration through the mail.

And, 2 hp or more, the motorbike is considered a motorcycle and subject to regular annual registration and required insurance and a motorcycle drivers license.

Do I have this right?

If so, is the larger (70cc) engine's performance really worth the extra hassle and expense?

Thanks,

ItsKeith

 

[gone_fishin]

what's a "70" ?

http://www.motoredbikes.com/viewtopic.php?t=445

 

[MotorbikeMike]

70cc exposed, Identity confirmed!

Hi Augidog, here's the history of the 70cc engine. At first, Spitfire (48cc only) distrubited by Steve Miller, supplied by Don Grube only sold 48cc engines from one factory in Shanghai area. Then Steve figured out how to cut out Grube. Grube contacted me, and I went to distributor level, having been a Spitfire Dealer. Meanwhile Don has found a north china factory, 48 roundheads, 60 squareheads, and a so-called 80cc (actually 69cc), which Steve has rejected from Don, this haoppens just before Steve goes Wildcatting.
Others begine to backdoor Grube as the factory Owners Mr Chen in the south, and Mr Chu (I think) in the north, break thier "Exclusive" contract to Don for sale to US.
Ebay floods with cheap bike engines without Don's improvements. Don is finally convinced (after mouths of me hounding him) that we need 9-hole sprockets (we had been redrilling them for almost 2 years) before I help Don design the 9-hole sprocket. This too get's given to the cheap e-bay box-sellers.
Steve wants 1 gallon tanks to look more like Whizzers, so Mr Lee, of Singapore, at steve's bidding, has the 1 gallon tanks developed at the tank factory. Soon these are "Leaked" to the "box-sellers (you remember them don't you? the ones who offer no support, have no technical prowess, and no spare parts?).
I start using the plastic throttles with the 90 degree noodle in the cable, along with the custom 9-holes, and other stuff, and I tell Don where to look for the throttles and also the push-button clutch lever, by now Don comes up with the BB idler.
Fleabay comes alive, like a room full of roaches with the box-sellers and the low-grade engines (china bearings, 5-hole sprockets etc) untill the disloyal factories give most of our good stuff to the Boxers. Don is afraid to ship over 48cc to try to remain fully legal everywhere, the Boxers are overjoyed when they discover the Massive 80cc China-Bike Engines! I believe that it was the Boxers who started calling the 69cc an "80".
We need to discrimanate between the old north-China 80cc (actually 69cc) and the better, newer designed 69cc Shanghai engine, we talked and Don decided to call the south engine by a true name 70cc.

This is part of it, Mike

 

[JosephGarcia]

Re: So, more than 2 hp is considered a motorcycle?

Thanks for delving deep into this subject,

So, under 2 hp, one time registration through the mail.

And, 2 hp or more, the motorbike is considered a motorcycle and subject to regular annual registration and required insurance and a motorcycle drivers license.

Do I have this right?

If so, is the larger (70cc) engine's performance really worth the extra hassle and expense?

Thanks,

ItsKeith

Not if they don't KNOW it's a 70cc.

catch my drift?

 

[spunout]

hahaha mike...how does the song go.."im just a soul who's intentions are good. oh lord, please don't let me be misunderstood..." you didnt actually view this: http://www.motoredbikes.com/viewtopic.php?t=445 . if you had, you'd get what he means .
later, friend 8)
happy

 

[OldPete]

Although some of it is very good, what is all this OT stuff doing in a CA registration thread? Mmmm. Just kidding!