Religion in Rock and Roll

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by scokes, Sep 18, 2009.

  1. scokes

    scokes Member

    I listen to alot of music. Bob Dylan is my first choice for all time favorite. The Beatles are a second close, but not just the Beatles. The work that John Lennon did after the break-up is legendary. forget the other three, although they had some good works as well.

    Born again Dylan v. Atheist Lennon

    First up - Dylan from his short lived "born-again" days and the album Slow Train Coming(1979)

    Gotta' Serve Somebody

    You may be an ambassador to England or France,
    You may like to gamble, you might like to dance,
    You may be the heavyweight champion of the world,
    You may be a socialite with a long string of pearls

    -----But you're gonna have to serve somebody, yes indeed
    -----You're gonna have to serve somebody,
    -----Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord
    -----But you're gonna have to serve somebody.

    You might be a rock 'n' roll addict prancing on the stage,
    You might have drugs at your command, women in a cage,
    You may be a business man or some high degree thief,
    They may call you Doctor or they may call you Chief

    You may be a state trooper, you might be a young Turk,
    You may be the head of some big TV network,
    You may be rich or poor, you may be blind or lame,
    You may be living in another country under another name

    You may be a construction worker working on a home,
    You may be living in a mansion or you might live in a dome,
    You might own guns and you might even own tanks,
    You might be somebody's landlord, you might even own banks

    You may be a preacher with your spiritual pride,
    You may be a city councilman taking bribes on the side,
    You may be workin' in a barbershop, you may know how to cut hair,
    You may be somebody's mistress, may be somebody's heir

    Might like to wear cotton, might like to wear silk,
    Might like to drink whiskey, might like to drink milk,
    You might like to eat caviar, you might like to eat bread,
    You may be sleeping on the floor, sleeping in a king-sized bed

    You may call me Terry, you may call me Timmy,
    You may call me Bobby, you may call me Zimmy,
    You may call me R. J., you may call me Ray,
    You may call me anything but no matter what you say


    Next up, Lennon's retort to Dylan's afore mentioned song. From "Wonsaponatime" - released 1998 or the four disc anthology titled "Imagine".

    Serve Yourself

    You say you found Jesus. Christ!
    He's the only one
    You say you've found Buddha
    Sittin' in the sun
    You say you found Mohammed
    Facin' to the East
    You say you found Krishna
    Dancin' in the street

    Well there's somethin' missing in this God Almighty stew
    And it's your mother (your mother, don't forget your mother, la)
    You got to serve yourself
    nobody gonna do for you
    You gotta serve yourself
    nobody gonna do for you
    Well you may believe in devils and you may believe in laws
    But if you don't go out and serve yourself, la, ain't no room service here

    It's still the same old story
    A bloody Holy War
    I fight for love and glory
    Ain't gonna study war no more
    I fight for God and country
    We're gonna set you free
    or put you back in the Stone Age
    If you won't be like me - y'get it?

    You got to serve yourself
    Ain't nobody gonna do for you
    You got to serve yourself
    Ain't nobody gonna do for you
    Yeah you may believe in devils and you may believe in laws

    'But Christ, you're gonna have to serve yourself and that's all there is to it.
    So get right back here it's in the bloody fridge. God, when I was a kid.
    Didn't have stuff like this, TV-f_ck!n' dinners and all that cr@p.
    You f_ck!n' kids (are) all the f_ck!n' same! Want a f_ck!n' car now...
    Lucky to have a pair of shoes!'

    You tell me you found Jesus. Christ!
    Well that's great and he's the only one
    You say you just found Buddha?
    and he's sittin' on his arse in the sun?
    You say you found Mohammed?
    Kneeling on a bloody carpet facin' the East?
    You say you found Krishna
    With a bald head dancin' in the street? ('Well Christ, la, you're goin out your bleedin' girth')

    You got to serve yourself
    Ain't nobody gonna do for you ('that's right, la, you better get that straight
    in your f_ck!n' head')
    You gotta serve yourself ('you know that, who else is gonna do it for you, it ain't me, kid, I tell you that')
    Well, you may believe in Jesus, and you may believe in Marx
    And you may believe in Marks and Spencer's and you maybe believe in bloody
    But there's something missing in this whole bloody stew
    And it's your mother, your poor bloody mother ('she what bore you in the
    back bedroom, full of p!ss and sh!t and f_ck!n' midwives. God, you can't
    forget that all too quick, you know. You should have been in the bloody
    war, la, and you'da known all about it.
    Well, I'll tell you something.')

    It's still the same old story
    A Holy bloody War, you know, with the Pope and all that stuff
    I fight for love and glory
    Ain't gonna study no war, more war
    I fight for God and country, the Queen and all that
    We're gonna set you free. yeah? all them "nig-nogs"? sure...
    Bomb you back into the f_ck!n' Stone Age
    If you won't be like me, you know, get down on your knees and pray

    Well there's somethin' missing in this God Almighty stew
    And it's your g0dd@mn mother you dirty little git, now
    get in there and wash yer ears!


    I just thought I would share this with you guys. If you have any examples that you would like to share with the class. Post 'em.

    My favorite political Dylan song - "Masters of War" - whole 'nother thread
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  2. suspect

    suspect Member

    i really like the bad brains despite their retarded religion.
  3. seanhan

    seanhan Member

    Got any Black Sabbath !!!!!!
  4. scokes

    scokes Member

    Afraid not. I actually like music.
  5. sparky

    sparky Active Member

    haha... Black Sabbath does suck. I haven't heard anything of theirs that sounded decent besides Iron Man.
  6. seanhan

    seanhan Member

    What do you listen to new age music,
    or zam fur the master of the pan flute...
    or even worse " country "
  7. sparky

    sparky Active Member

    blues, jazz, rap, r&b, soul, reggae, classic rock, alternative rock, oldies, and many others. And actually, this is the first year of my life where I've heard a few good country songs. I've been going to this same hole-in-the-wall bar for a few years now, mainly the free pool on Sun & Mon... and one day, it just clicked with me. Not ALL country, but some of it.

    Once upon a time, I did single country, pop, & heavy metal out as the only genres I couldn't listen to. Country had the twang, pop was too poppy, and heavy metal just sounds like static. Honestly, with hanging out with some of the females I'm around... pop's starting to brainwash me, too. Heavy metal still sounds like static to me, tho. System of a Down is AWESOME, and they're metal... but they're not HEAVY metal.

    I think the most important thing about music is that it simply be good... not one genre or another. And it still stands, for me at least, that Black Sabbath has only one good song.
  8. sparky

    sparky Active Member

    And sure... new age and pan flute are probly good, too, as long as they don't get too soft. There's good and bad in every genre and from every artist. Well, there's not much bad from Led Zeppelin, Dave Matthews Band, & the Beatles... but there's always the exception(s) to the rule.
  9. seanhan

    seanhan Member

    I agree the whole genre thing can be deceiving just a catagory not everything fits into..
    good is good if you like it !!!
  10. sparky

    sparky Active Member

    Yea, I guess I shoulda just said I'm an eclectic listener and saved some time, eh? ;)
  11. srdavo

    srdavo Active Member

    Here's a couple oldies.......

    "Turn! Turn! Turn! (to Everything There is a Season)"
    written 1959 by Pete Seeger (adapted entirely from the Book of Ecclesiastes)
    Recorded 1962 - Pete Seeger
    Recorded 1963 - Judy Collins (aka: Judy Blue Eyes, but that's a whole nother thread)
    Recorded 1965 - The Byrds (Folk-Rock)

    Spirit in the Sky
    Norman Greenbaum

  12. sparky

    sparky Active Member

    Instant Karma

    John Lennon's lyrics will always be amazing. In my HS yearbook, they asked all the seniors what our favorite song was. I put "Imagine", but I do like this song quite a bit better.
  13. sparky

    sparky Active Member

    BTW, John Lennon is a guy who most definitely has life after death... and he's about as far away from being a Christian as one could get.
  14. give me vtec

    give me vtec Active Member

    that says it all...
  15. sparky

    sparky Active Member

    What all does it say?
  16. scokes

    scokes Member

    Thanks srdavo and sparky, those are good contributions, exactly what I was looking for.

    seanhan - look at the title, the only freakin flute in Rock-n-roll is Jethro Tull.

    so here we go

    Jethro Tull - Aqualung album
    Hymn 43

    Hymn 43 lyrics

    Oh father high in heaven -- smile down upon your son
    whose busy with his money games -- his women and his gun.
    Oh Jesus save me!

    And the unsung Western hero killed an Indian or three
    and made his name in Hollywood
    to set the white man free.
    Oh Jesus save me!

    If Jesus saves -- well, He'd better save Himself
    from the gory glory seekers who use His name in death.
    Oh Jesus save me!

    I saw him in the city and on the mountains of the moon --
    His cross was rather bloody --
    He could hardly roll His stone.
    Oh Jesus save me!


    My all-time favorite

    "Locomotive Breath"

    In the shuffling madness
    Of the locomotive breath,
    Runs the all-time loser,
    Headlong to his death.

    He feels the piston scraping --
    Steam breaking on his brow --
    Old Charlie stole the handle and
    The train won't stop going --
    No way to slow down.

    He sees his children jumping off
    At the stations -- one by one.
    His woman and his best friend --
    In bed and having fun.

    He's crawling down the corridor
    On his hands and knees --
    Old Charlie stole the handle and
    The train won't stop going --
    No way to slow down.

    He hears the silence howling --
    Catches angels as they fall.
    And the all-time winner
    Has got him by the balls.

    He picks up Gideon's Bible --
    Open at page one --
    God stole the handle and
    The train won't stop going --
    No way to slow down.