Thats it.... Rider is my title? that says what i really want on a motoriesed push bike. so if Gebe or anybody else can give me more reliabity i'll wait till such time or im not going to waste my time or money on brake downs every 100km. I should have bought a Gebe from the start, dum me chinese made...End of story!!! churning not ,till such time, i find a new hobby untill prices come down on the south side...all the best God knows the rest .A respector of the men of the iraq war and thier familys