Say goodbye to small motors in California

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Don't ever listen to someone trying to sell you something. "They" are having problems because the house of cards we humans have built is still wobbling from Covid-19. Recycling will get better and better as it has been for a long time now. Hopefully, it will become mandatory for the majority of products and materials that we are currently discarding, and 100% of shipping materials be mandated to be both recyclable and compostable. Believe it or not, glass isn't recycled by my trash removal company... f***ing glass isn't recycled? Why? Because there isn't enough profit in it for LeMay to bother. There's a lot of value in old lithium batteries just like there is in lead-acid batteries (over 90% recycled today) and that will keep the majority out of landfills. So... you are worried about pollutants and toxins being placed in the ground but don't care about them being released into the air? Is that because it would actually affect you personally? Whereas with air pollution you can turn a blind eye to it and keep playing as you want? It's got to be hard to be a caring environmentalist (or parent/grandparent) and ride around on a noisy smoker. Try and remember that the U.S. doesn't have nearly the problem with 2-strokes that much of the world does.

Google search: "The approximate amount of lithium on earth is between 30 and 90 million tons. That means we will run out eventually... but we're not sure when. PV Magazine states it could be as soon as 2040, assuming electric cars demand 20 million tons of lithium by then."

Two decades... think of how far new battery technology will advance in 20 years.

This was in 2014 and things are far worse today -
Yeah, I'm glad they are being banned and hope that it accelerates exponentially worldwide. Stay safe.
You realize it costs more diesel and electricity to recycle products than make new products from raw material...
 
What about the ground level Ozone produced by electric motors? I believe electric or gravitic will take over some day as a better form of transportation but it won't happen with lithium batteries.
 
Also even if commiefornia takes away all the gas engines from the citizen slaves, the federal government will still be smoking you guys out with the air force and navy. Can you imagine the vulnerabilities for invasion and such with absolutely no gas engines and a s**t electrical grid lmao. When will these air heads get back to reality and when will the citizen slaves of our country stand up to these clearly corrupt politicians and the rigged elections.
 
Civil War I fear is completely inevitable at this point. We can no longer vote our way out. They are removing every way of peacefully changing anything. Much like the British did 250 years ago. They are already at a soft war with us. I hope everybody has ammo and fuel stocked up. It might be a cold winter...
 
You realize it costs more diesel and electricity to recycle products than make new products from raw material...
Do you realize that electricity is coming from alternative sources now? Not sure how diesel plays into it specifically. Plus it's going to take less energy to recycle most materials into other products than having to harvest those raw materials and start by scratch. Copper is amazingly recyclable but it's less expensive to use non-recycled copper in electronics than to get it to the purity required... doesn't mean we shouldn't recycle copper. The more value in the products recycled the better we are at reusing them.
 
Funny how to make those alternative sources, it takes oil. lmao. Then it takes more energy to actually make the item, than you will get back in return. So all you are doing is making you energy all happy looking, while the pollution ends up in someone else's back yard. Hell you can't even use a wind farm with out millions of gallons of, you guessed it, oil. lmfao. Alternative my arse. Like hydrogen, makign it from natural gas, oil products. Not even close to green. Cost to much to make it from water, why, because you get less energy out of it than it took to make it. An it takes a lot to crack water into browns gas (HHO).
 
Funny how to make those alternative sources, it takes oil. lmao. Then it takes more energy to actually make the item, than you will get back in return. So all you are doing is making you energy all happy looking, while the pollution ends up in someone else's back yard. Hell you can't even use a wind farm with out millions of gallons of, you guessed it, oil. lmfao. Alternative my arse. Like hydrogen, makign it from natural gas, oil products. Not even close to green. Cost to much to make it from water, why, because you get less energy out of it than it took to make it. An it takes a lot to crack water into browns gas (HHO).
I also would like a couple examples of "alternative" sourced energy that is anywhere near clean, reliable, and efficient as natural gas or nuclear. Wind and solar aren't it. Anyone who can read should know how bad they are for the environment and then they don't even last long enough to pay for themselves, then they are largely non recyclable so they end up in huge landfills.
 
I also would like a couple examples of "alternative" sourced energy that is anywhere near clean, reliable, and efficient as natural gas or nuclear. Wind and solar aren't it. Anyone who can read should know how bad they are for the environment and then they don't even last long enough to pay for themselves, then they are largely non recyclable so they end up in huge landfills.
Even with an estimated 47 years of oil reserves and 42 years of natural gas reserves left worldwide (at current consumption levels and excluding unproven reserves) "we"... (humans) should be using every form of energy possible rather than depleting resources as versatile as fossil fuels, a resource that humanity will never have at its disposal again. Yes to nuclear IF it's an SFR.. we've already altered human DNA several times on a world scale playing with radiation on the cheap. Bad planning and design like Chernobyl and Fukushima can't happen again. NG is better than other fossil fuels true, but... "About 117 pounds of carbon dioxide are produced per million British thermal units (MMBtu) equivalent of natural gas compared with more than 200 pounds of CO2 per MMBtu of coal and more than 160 pounds per MMBtu of distillate fuel oil." It all becomes degrees of bad with FF. Wind, solar, hydro, hydrogen, geothermal, tidal, wave energy, biomass all combined also make "us" less reliant on any single source. Of course, none of them are perfect ... and ALL need to have potentially hundreds of years of improvements and upgrades but that's what humans do... if they are smart enough to survive. Samual Brown invented and patented the ICE in 1823 and they are still only 20% efficient. "The efficiency by which they do so is measured in terms of "thermal efficiency", and most gasoline combustion engines average around 20 percent thermal efficiency" And you expect other forms of energy to be perfect now? Humans... are bad for the environment, and scientists cause cancer in laboratory mice, that's nothing new. Having a myopic approach to world energy use isn't a luxury humans have anymore. And if it takes society to force it down the throats of noncaring humans... so be it. It's exactly the same as with vaccinations, hold'em down that give them the shots, or we could make some new penial colonies somewhere you have a spare continent on hand to warehouse them?
 
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